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Your brain does its strangest work when you’re shampooing your hair. We grab that exact vibe and turn it into a fast, funny, occasionally unhinged run through the best shower thoughts we can find, with proper father daughter banter along the way. Expect the kind of questions that sound ridiculous until they suddenly feel true, plus the little tangents that make Bonus Dad Bonus Daughter feel like you’re sat in the room with us. 

We start with a quick catch-up, including Davy’s Tales From The Mammal Frequency, a set of Twilight Zone and Black Mirror inspired monologues written, recorded, and produced solo, then we spiral into the main list. What happens if you clean a vacuum cleaner? Why does your stomach basically treat every potato like mash? Is the word “Q” literally a queue of silent letters? And why do we press harder on the remote when the batteries are dying as if anger is a power source? 

Some shower thoughts go deeper than you’d expect. We talk about walking past people who might later matter to you, how a single interaction can shape someone’s view of whether people are good or bad, and why getting older starts to feel less like a threat and more like a gift. We even dip into paradox territory, including the Ship of Theseus problem and whether something is still the same after every part has been replaced, with a very specific roller coaster debate to prove it. 

If you love funny philosophical questions, everyday psychology, British humour, and the kind of light comedy podcast that still manages to land a meaningful point, press play. Subscribe, share it with a mate, and leave us a review, then tell us which shower thought you can’t stop thinking about.

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Welcome To Bonus Dad Bonus Daughter

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Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad.

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Bonus Daughter, a special father-daughter podcast with me, Hannah.

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And me, Davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities. Share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world.

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Each week we will discuss a topic.

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From our own point of view.

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And influences throughout the decades.

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Or you could choose one by contacting us.

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Via email, Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok. Links in bio. Hello and welcome to a very special podcast episode. Episode?

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Episode.

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Did you have you seen that uh clip of uh what's his face? Uh Scarlett Scarlet Joe Hansen says requires rather than requires in an interview. No. And then the guy that I can't remember, he's in Bridgetton, the guy. He's also in Wicked.

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I don't watch that.

Davy’s New Audio Monologues

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I know, but he's also in Wicked. Uh he's like the main like hot dude in it. I haven't seen Wicked either. Anyway, he absolutely just like falls apart when she says requires. Requiles. Yeah, apparently it was just a really long day and he just found it really funny, even though it wasn't that funny. Anyway, this episode is on shower thoughts. That is not a shower thought. Well, it could be a shower thought.

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Could be. Could be. Before we dive into the episode, you got any uh life updates, Hannah? You've been doing anything? No. You haven't? Really?

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Don't think so.

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Life's been boring for Hannah.

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Life has been boring for Hannah. Has life been boring for Davy? No. Oh yeah, you want to do your thing.

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Yeah, I think all my things are recorded. My little tales from the mammal frequency have all been recorded. And there's the well, actually, this is coming out in about four weeks' time, so we'll be on we'll be halfway through the series by the time this particular episode comes out.

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Have we got like a crowd cheer noise?

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Have we got a crowd cheer noise? Uh we probably have. Uh, where is it?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's give them a hand, everyone.

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Anyway, sorry. That went on a little bit longer than I expected.

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I I thought I'd try and break the break the tension there.

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Yeah. So they are like a kind of Black Mirror, Twilight Zone kind of inspired all monologues which were written, recorded, mixed, and mastered by yours truly. Yes. And they're gonna be available on Spotify.

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And listened by me.

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And you've heard them and you like them, don't you?

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I do like them.

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One of them's come very unhinged.

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Yeah. Uh can I say the names? You can say that the names have been released.

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Yeah, the names have been released.

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Gabe After Dark, that one is my favourite. Uh, what's the comet one?

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The com uh it's called Echoes in the Void.

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Echoes in the Void. Echoes in the Void, also a good one.

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Yep. Uh I've got two. Warlock uh Threshold, which was actually inspired by your mother. Was inspired by a dream your mother had.

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Mmm.

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So she came down and told me this dream, and she went, Oh, we could write a story about that. And I I did. You did. Yeah.

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So technically you didn't do that one uh by yours truly. There was there have been outside influence.

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There was there's there's been a few outside influences. Like Echoes in the Void actually is inspired by Blade Runner.

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Oh.

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Yes.

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So we've got to thank them as well.

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We have indeed.

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Thanks, Blade Runner. Writers slash cast.

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One one of the favourite ones I actually recorded doing was called Gumshoe.

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Oh, yeah, that was a good one. They're all pretty good to be fair.

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Yeah, so that one is they're all different voices as well. I do all the voice acting, the whole lot, and every single one is a different style voice.

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I I think it it's it's so strange because I know your voice, your normal voice, so well. Sometimes I hear your like little come through, like in Gabe After Dark. There's a couple of times where I'm like, ah, it's him, but sometimes I'm like, has he pitched his voice up or down? Like that.

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I'm always like No, it's all natural. Yeah, pretty cool. Echoes in the Void. I have put a chorus effect on it to make it sound like an Android. Yeah, Android. Yes.

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That's cool.

Shirts Dungarees And Black Shuck

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Yeah, but yeah. Very cool. Um so great life update. Yeah, there you go. So that's what I've been doing. And I spent hours on them. But hours upstairs in my little room, which is now all completely done and all you are a hobbit. Yeah. Um, before we delve into the episode as well, shall we uh shall we just discuss my t-shirt?

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Do we need to discuss your t-shirt?

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Well, no, something you texted me the other day, something you noticed about what I wear on the podcast.

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I I was making a new end panel for YouTube because I realised it was just our logo and I thought I can I can be a bit more creative than that. Yeah. And then when I pulled like all of this, like the stills and and and cut you out, I was like, he wears the same blue shirt every single time. That it looks like they're all from the same episode, but they're not. There's like there's like I used two. I had to use two because there wasn't any like others to use of you and the blue like Czech shirt. Um, so yeah. I thought you were gonna say because I bought you that and your daughter's amazing and bought you that Hellfire shirt.

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This is my Hellfire Club t-shirt. Yes.

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I bought this myself as well. It's a dungarees.

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It is dungarees. Yeah. Yes, yes. It's dungarees weather. You do like your dungarees, though.

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I have several pairs. Actually, how many pairs do I have? I've got the mushroom pair, so I've got this pair, I've got the mushroom pair, I've got the moons, I've got the other moons, I've got the other moons.

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Yeah.

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And then I do have like a pinnafore, which is more of a skirt once. Okay, six, yeah. Six. And only one of them is Lucy and Yak. Crazy.

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Yeah. Um there is one thing that you could you could mention on your life update. Where you were yesterday. Remember? You sent me a picture.

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Oh. Oh, I just went shopping in Bungie.

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Yeah, but what did you find?

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Oh, I I found uh a shop that had all the Black Shuck memorabilia that we uh we talked about the Black Shock uh Norfolk mysteries.

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Yeah, Norfolk mysteries or Halloween episode. Yeah.

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When we done a little segment on where we live in Norfolk, um we mentioned the Black Shuck, and the Black Shuck was uh there was a stand in there and it had all of the they had like um 3D printed Black Shucks as well. And then they had Shucky Doo, which was like Scooby-Doo, but for the Black Shock, and it and and Scooby was was black in it. Yeah. Um yeah, it was really cool, like some Lino prints and stuff. Actually, it's probably giving me like I'm not gonna say two more because I might get something for your birthday.

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Oh, okay, cool. It's not far away.

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It's not far. It's not far, neither is mine.

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Yes, and you will be the grand old age of 30.

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I will be 30.

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Mm-hmm. How does it feel here knocking on 30's door?

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Do you know what, actually? Yeah, uh if you'd asked me this, like when I turned 29, I would I was saying I was dreading it. But due to recent events, I actually think aging is a gift. Like, genuinely, like I'm really, I'm really thankful and grateful to have reached this age. Oh. Honestly.

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Yeah.

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Like hand on heart, like, yeah, I was dreading it, but now I'm like, you know what?

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You're happy to reach. You're happy to reach it.

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Now we've made it. So so yeah, that's I I'm taking it with positivity now and rather than dread.

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Yeah.

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30 is uh 30 and any aging after uh thereafter, well, aging generally is a gift. So yeah, we should we should cherish that.

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We should embrace.

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Embrace.

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Embrace the aging.

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Yeah.

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Embrace the aging, yes. So are you ready to delve into shower thoughts?

Kicking Off Shower Thoughts

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I'm so ready. You are sorry. I had a shower this morning, so I feel like I am mildly prepared for this.

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Essentially, what the what the episode is, it's those thoughts that you have in the shower. Hence the name, shower thoughts.

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I mostly sing in the shower.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Or I have like, you know, scenarios play out in my head of things that I should have said or should have done.

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Because I'm be playing them conversations in your head.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I should have said that instead. That would have made less more of a conflict.

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Yeah. I I referenced that in one bad day. Oh, do you? In the Tales. Um so I'm gonna read these out. You're gonna blind react. Okay. Yeah. So number one. Yes. If you clean a vacuum cleaner, you become the vacuum cleaner.

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I mean, it's not wrong. Yeah, I guess you do. Yeah. I don't I don't disagree with that. Yeah. You're the cleaner of the vacuum cleaner.

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You are the cleaner of the vacuum cleaner.

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Therefore, you are the vacuum cleaner's vacuum cleaner.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, it makes sense.

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There you are. Yep. Number two. Yep. Your stomach thinks that all potatoes are mashed.

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Oh, that's just giving me the ick. Because I don't like mash, but the thought of that. So there you go.

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You eat a roast potato, it thinks it's mashed. You eat a chip, your stomach thinks it's a good thing.

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But surely it thinks everything is mashed or mushed.

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Yeah. So you have that nice presentation of a food, but your stomach doesn't care because it's all mashed.

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Doesn't need to care. It doesn't have sentient thoughts, sentient thoughts.

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Did you know that you've probably walked past someone who will eventually be in your life, but you just didn't know it yet?

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Yeah. I think I think, yeah. I I I yeah.

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Yeah. Do you do you ever have a have that thought? I did the other day actually. You know when you drive, when you say like if you're walking past, it's like people are walking past you or you're driving home. Like you think you see them for a fraction of a second, but they've got an entire life, yeah, entire thing going on, all sorts of stuff.

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I think that there was like I can't remember what the statistic was. It's probably not that accurate, but it's like how many times you walk past like a serial killer and stuff like that. Like there's loads of those horrible facts. Like you don't know likewise, you don't know if you're walking past the love of your life, likewise you don't know if you're passing a serial killer. If they happen to be the same person, I'm sorry. Um but I feel like, yeah, uh yeah, it is amazing to think that their lives spans beha b past your own. Yeah. And I know that sounds really simple. Main character energy. Yeah, it is main character energy, but how can we not be main character energy? It's so difficult. I mean, we think of others. I I think of others, but it is very hard to sometimes pluck yourself out of. I think that's why therapists are really cool because they they just kind of insert themselves into your life and really learn what's going on. Whereas you don't necessarily think of uh the bartender that gave you a beer at the weekend. You don't you don't think, oh, you know, they've got a whole life. I don't know, it's just not something that crosses.

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That's the whole thing about being kind to people because you don't know what it is.

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You have no idea. You have no idea. I think it's always best to go with kindness unless they are clearly looking for an arsehole interaction. Yeah. Even so, fight it with kindness.

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Kill them with kindness, kill them with kindness, instead.

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That's the type of serial killer I want to be.

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Yeah. And it's not when people complain about things and get really arsey and really angry to people. It's like it's not that person's particular fault. Don't get angry with that particular person.

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Often, if that's the case in a certain situation, I'll be like, I always start with look, I know it's not your fault, but can I bring this to your attention? Except and then like a shit sandwich, right? Yeah, good, bad, but you're doing a great job, and I know it's not your problem, but I don't know how else to tell you this.

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Yes.

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Shit sandwich, baby.

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They used to when I worked at uh Tesco's, they used to call it the praise hamburger. So you'd have the praise hamburger. It was, yeah, seriously. Honestly, they came up with some shite. I really did.

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That was basically someone renaming the shit sandwich.

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It's essentially that, yeah.

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The praise hamburger.

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Yeah. So you so you you praise them at the beginning, praise them at the end, and then you give them the meat in the middle.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Sounds like a Tesco thing.

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Yeah, it really is.

Wordplay Queues And Feeling Old

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Uh wouldn't happen at Morrison's. I know you did.

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Um Did you know that the word Q is just the letter Q followed by four silent letters waiting their turn?

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Oh my god, the word Q is a Q.

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Yeah. Followed by four silent letters waiting their turn. So they are in a Q in the word Q.

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My dumbass immediately was like, a pool Q? I was like, that doesn't work that way.

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No, we're we're we're British. We like to Q. I know, I know, I know.

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I went for pool cue. Pool pool is a British thing.

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Pool?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, you can get Americans. There's like Schnooker. Yeah, snooker. Snooker's an English thing.

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It's snooker also English. Yeah. Why do we like hitting balls with sticks? Like croquet is another thing.

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Well, whatever you do in the sanctity of your own home, Hannah, is completely up to you. There's no judgment to hear.

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It's quite telling about my my bed romantics, I suppose, isn't it? I think I I just wanted to say that croquet is another ball stick.

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It is.

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Golf ball stick.

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Yeah, exactly. Is Mitchell playing golf today?

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He's not, no. Is he not? No, no, no. He's having a he's having a rest day. Is he? He's he's an old man and he's dressed his back.

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He's an old man.

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He's an old man. Such an old man. Oh my god, can I tell you this story?

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Oh, go on then. Go on then.

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Uh, he's gonna hate me for this. So he went to a restaurant last night.

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Yeah.

Brains Dreams And Infinite Maths

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With uh with with two lads, and uh he came back home and I was like, Oh, did you have a nice time? He was like, Yeah, yeah, the food was really lovely, but had to order on a bloody QR code, the music was too loud, the the lights were too dim, I couldn't see my food, and I was like, You are such an old man. And he was like, the food was really nice though, but he's like, I've never been more compelled to write a Google review in my life. Really? Yeah, he was like, I loved everything about it, but those like three things just like the vibe was totally off. It was like it was so young and hipster in there. I was like, Who are you? Such an old man. Brilliant, he's gonna hate me for that.

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Um did you know that you never actually see your own face, only reflections or photos? You can't see your own face.

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For the audio listeners, I just crossed my eyes and looked at my nose. Um, yeah, I guess that's true.

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Did you know as well, as well, you just doing that, your brain, because your nose is in front of your face, but your brain blocks your nose.

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I didn't know this. I did know this. So you see your nose all the time, but your brain is like meh.

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Yeah, it blocks it out. It doesn't register. Yeah. Uh talking about brains, oh god, you don't remember your dreams after a while, but your brain does, which means it's keeping secrets from you.

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My own brain is keeping secrets from me. I I do not doubt that for one second. Yeah. Because also it has processed events and memories that you also might not remember on recall. Like there's so much stuff that we learn at school, but I could not recall every single lesson I went to.

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Okay. Yes.

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That was that was a bit of a closed down in conversation. I do apologize. I won't mention school again. Carry on.

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Um, every time that you shuffle a deck of cards, uh-huh, you're likely creating a sequence that has never existed before.

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Yeah, same with a Rubik's Cube as well. Yes. There's something like with a Rubik's Cube, the number is in the quintillions.

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Yeah.

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Uh I can't remember if it's five quintillion or fifty quintillion, something of that nature, but it it's crazy to me that yeah, every yeah, it's it's inconceivable how many uh combinations of of something. Yeah. Apparently, in order to like, if you if you done all the combinations, as in undone the Rubik's Cube, Rubik's cube diet, I think it was something like a a crazy amount of years before you could create all all versions of what the cube looks like. Mad. Mad. Maths is crazy.

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Maths is crazy. Maths is insane. I'm not very good at maths, as we know.

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Yeah, you are pretty shocking.

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I am absolutely terrible at maths.

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Sometimes it rubs off on me as well. Like sometimes I just don't know. I I I'm not very good at mental maths. I think that's my example.

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You're not very good at reverse maths either.

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Reverse maths.

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Subtraction.

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Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think calling it reverse maths is is very telling, actually.

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I am on my you know on your phone, you got you got you got your calculator on your phone.

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I'm aware.

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Right. I accidentally hit that, you know, where you can change it from a normal calculator to like a scientific calculator. What I don't know what any of that means.

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Costan sin, baby. I don't know. Socatoa.

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I genuinely have no idea what any of it means.

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I used to, some of it anyway.

Time Language And Cosmic Weirdness

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But here we are. Uh and did you know that your age is just the number of times that you've circled the sun?

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Yeah. I feel like that's Yeah.

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That's obvious.

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Yeah. I don't like that one.

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Okay. Now I bet everybody's now gonna do this. I'm gonna try it.

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Okay.

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When you say forward, your lips move forward. When you say back, your lips move back.

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I don't know why that makes me mad. Forward, back, back. Yeah, it's because a B is a for. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Every listener and every visual or visual person. Visual person? Everyone watching on YouTube is doing it now.

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Every visual person.

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Yeah. Um back, forward. Yes. Yo, yo, yo, yo. That you could be the reason someone else believes that people are good or bad, and you'll never know.

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Hold on.

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Because of your interaction with somebody.

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Because of my interaction with someone, someone can believe that someone else is either good or bad. Is that what you're saying?

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Yeah.

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Oh, so if I said, for example.

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So everyone has a different perception of you. Okay, so it could be good and it could be bad.

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Oh, I thought you meant I told someone that I like Charlotte Church, and they're like, oh, that's cool. Charlotte Church must be a good person. Is that what it's saying? Uh yeah.

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Okay.

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I don't watch Charlotte Church. She was on my mind. She makes me a crazy chick.

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Oh, well done. Thank you. Uh did you know that you've never been in an empty room? There's always air, particles, and signals and radio frequencies and sounds that you probably can't hear.

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I think that depends on your definition of alone. Because I think alone is a very human response.

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Yeah.

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Therefore, no, I disagree with that one because I feel like you're alone in a room if there's no other person in that room with you.

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Human.

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Or animal.

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Or animal. Did you know that the word bed looks like a bed?

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It does look like a bed. It does. Doesn't it? I wonder if that was on purpose.

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Yeah. Probably not. Oh, my eyes just went, oh, hang on. You're constantly aging, but you've never experienced being older than you are right now. You are always the oldest you ever are.

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Ugh.

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There you go. That that's going to throw back to earlier when you're talking about your birthday.

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Yeah, I guess I guess I I guess you can never hang on.

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Mm-hmm.

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You can never be in the future?

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You can no, you can't. You're you're in the present.

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Unless you have a DeLorean.

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There's some on one of the paradoxes, there's a paradox about that. I thought that would be paradox about that. Paradox. Somewhere in the world, someone is having the best day of their life right now, and someone else is having the worst day of their life right now.

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Yeah.

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And did you know that cheese is a loaf of milk?

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Okay. Cheese is a loaf of milk.

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Cheese is just essentially a loaf of milk.

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It is a loaf of milk. Yeah, I'll give you that.

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Yeah, there you go. Who do you think the first person to actually try cow's milk was? And thought, actually, this is nice.

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Straight from the tea.

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There's a story there somewhere, isn't there?

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I reckon straight from the tea. Who milked a cow?

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Exactly.

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Like who was like, hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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I wonder. I wonder.

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These are these are wondrous thoughts. Why does cranberry juice taste like it doesn't want to be wet?

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Hmm. It is dry.

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Isn't it?

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It is dry.

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It's a weird taste.

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Even drier if you put it with vodka.

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Yeah, it is a really weird taste.

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It is a weird taste. But I do kind of like it.

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Yeah.

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I find that with some wines though, they don't want to be wet either.

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No, some of them are some of the dry wines I'm not really that keen on. But and then I'm not really keen on the really sweet ones either.

Murder Logic Films And Nuclear Pizza

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And to anyone that's had a colonoscopy and done uh bowel prep, they'll also know that there are some liquids that don't want to be wet. You're welcome for that visual.

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Um going back to what you were saying earlier about serial killers.

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Yes.

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Yeah. So if you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world remains the same.

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Yes. Yes. Because you become the murderer. Because you become the murderer.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Yes. But you also could prevent m other murders.

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You could, but then but at that particular time the number of murderers remain the same. Yeah. Yeah.

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Mad.

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Uh if a fly loses its wings, do you call it a walk?

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I think you'd call it dead.

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No, because it just means it can't fly because it then walk.

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I don't know if flies can live without their wings. Might be a part of the Morgan structure.

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Have you ever seen the film Wanted with Morgan Freeman and James McAvoy?

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Is that the one where she bends the bullets?

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Yes.

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Yes. Anjali and Jolie.

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Yeah. And he says, um Morgan Freeman at one point says, shoot the f shoot the wings off the fly.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And uh don't they like bath in that whack stuff?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. See? Yeah. I have watched movies.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's got um the Russian actor in that. God, I can't remember his name. Anton something. Debeck?

SPEAKER_00

No, Anton Debek.

SPEAKER_01

There's a really Anton's twist.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, Karen.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. No, you're right. There's a couple of books. One's called Night Watch and one's called Daywatch.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And they made them into films about, God must be about 25 years ago now, but they're brilliant. You should watch those. Okay. They're in Russian. And the really cool thing is, is the subtitles, because it's all kind of supernaturally, when you watch the original film with subtitles, the subtitles go in and out of blood. Oh it's it's really cool. It's really, really cool. Really cool.

SPEAKER_00

Funky.

SPEAKER_01

Did you know that during a nuclear explosion, there is a radius where all pizzas are cooked to perfection?

SPEAKER_00

Guess there's a positive spin on it. Yeah. They'd be radioactive, but at least they'd be cooked well.

SPEAKER_01

Uh you have never watched a full movie, by the way, Hannah.

SPEAKER_00

Why?

SPEAKER_01

Because you're constantly blinking.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, for God's sake. See, these are shower thoughts.

SPEAKER_01

These are thoughts you have in the shower.

Rings Babies And Tomato Ketchup Smoothies

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So you know the the wedding rings that we we both have here? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

These are the do not disturb sign of dating.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I have on occasion worn uh other rings on my My ring finger before I was married. Yeah, but no, but on that. Also divert Yeah, I know. But also I've I've put it on that finger to To divert attention.

SPEAKER_01

Divert attention. Yeah, see the do not disturb sign of dating. Do not have a big thing.

SPEAKER_00

Do not disturb sign. Do not disturb sign the bag of her mind. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01

You know when uh somebody has a baby.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I am aware, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And they what do they always say? They give it the weight, don't they? Weight and length of the baby.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Make and model. Same as fishing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's a prize catch. Yeah. You know, a baby is caught regardless. Even if it even if it's cut out, someone catches that. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Bad boy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or girl.

SPEAKER_01

Indeed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So tomatoes are technically fruit, aren't they?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So is tomato ketchup a smoothie?

SPEAKER_00

To some people, yes. I've got a fun fact about tomato juice.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Apparently, a lot of people order tomato juice on a plane because it tastes different at a different altitude. It's sweeter. Not not sacrifice. How does that work? I have no idea. Do not do not science me. I just read it and apparently, like, a lot of flight attendants always order tomato juice because apparently it just like tastes amazing in the air.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's bizarre.

SPEAKER_00

It is bizarre, isn't it? So bloody Mary's a hoy. Is what I'm learning from this video.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Did you know that Archie, who's who is our dog?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. This is a shower thought.

SPEAKER_01

This is a shower thought. Probably thinks that we're terrible at fetch.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, he's terrible at throwing, so works both ways, my man.

SPEAKER_01

Um do not touch signs have probably been touched more than anything else. Because when it says do not touch, you just naturally touch it.

SPEAKER_00

I guess also the person that put it there also touched it.

The Same Object After Replacements

SPEAKER_01

This is also this will also come up in one of the par in the paradox episode. But if you replace every part of something, yeah, is it still the same item? Or is it something new?

SPEAKER_00

Now, this is a bit of a debate in the roller coaster world as well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

By the way, I haven't brought roller coasters into a podcast episode for a very long time.

SPEAKER_01

You haven't actually.

SPEAKER_00

No, I've been a bit quiet on the roller coaster front.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, oh, sorry, just quickly, just quickly jump in. I created my own Instagram account, right? Eh. For the Tales from the Mammal Frequency. I followed you. You were the first bit person I followed on that, which was the big and little adventures. I'm now inundated with roller coaster things, saying, follow us, follow us, follow us. But no, continue.

SPEAKER_00

Shit, what I was gonna say. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is debated heavily in the roller coaster world world. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01

I'm just pla playing with buttons.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Uh in the roller coaster world, because when a roller coaster is retracked, do you get another credit for riding that roller coaster? So you get a credit for every time you ride a roller coaster for the first time, a unique credit. Yeah. So I've got, for example, Nemesis at Alton Towers had a whole retrack. So it's now uh it was Nemesis, uh yeah, it was Nemesis, now it's Nemesis Reborn. So do you class that as an extra credit? I personally don't think so. Right. I don't think you should because it's the same exact roller coaster and layout.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And then the debate of that guy that was pushing that broom. Oh, I've had several new handles and three new brush heads.

SPEAKER_01

Only fills no horses, wasn't it? Sure. You say I've had this broom for 30 years, it's had seven new handles and 12 new brush heads. Yeah. But it's still the same broom. Still the same broom because it's clean.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm gonna go with no.

SPEAKER_01

You can go with no? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

It depends, it depends. Because I feel I feel like if you have a car and it's still the outer shell of that car is the same, but you've replaced the engine, and then oh no, the exhaust went, I have to explore replace the exhaust. There is a part of me that would argue that that that is possibly the same part.

Ghost Physics Pigeons And Cinderella

SPEAKER_01

Let's put a pin in that one. Oh. Because when we come to the paradoxes one, we'll go into that into very into great depth because I've got a really couple of good examples of that. Okay. You know ghosts.

SPEAKER_00

Uh well, I'm familiar with their uh their law.

SPEAKER_01

If they can walk through walls, why don't they just fall through the floor? Great question. There you are. Shower thoughts.

SPEAKER_00

Hmm. So what you're saying is that the reason we don't have ghosts now is because we're all above Yeah, they're probably just falling through the floor.

SPEAKER_01

Uh have you ever seen a baby pigeon?

SPEAKER_00

Have I ever seen a baby pigeon?

SPEAKER_01

Has anyone ever seen a baby pigeon?

SPEAKER_00

I'm can I'm convinced they're government cameras.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I've never seen a baby pigeon. No, I haven't. Not once. Where do they pigeon? Where do they where do they pigeon?

SPEAKER_01

Where are they? Where do they pigeon? Yeah, where where do pigeons pigeon?

SPEAKER_00

I have no idea. Where do they live?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. I don't know. Does anyone know what a baby pigeon looks like?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm sure Google does, but mad. Yeah, no, I've never seen a baby pigeon. Well, I don't think I've seen a baby pigeon.

SPEAKER_01

Cinderella's shoe.

SPEAKER_00

Glass, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. If it fits so perfectly, why did it fall off? Hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Oh dear.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The old Grimms brothers are not gonna be happy with that one.

SPEAKER_01

No, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

That was a very, very good point.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so why did Cinderella's shoe fall off?

SPEAKER_00

Maybe she got a bit of sweaty from all that dancing. Or she got cold. Her feet were stripped.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, we'll go with that. Yeah. We'll go with that. She got chilly feet.

SPEAKER_00

Because they were glass slippers and they would be quite cold, actually, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01

We'll go with that then. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Because at least clogs are wooden and then they would retain the heat. Whereas I can't see it. Well, no, glass would retain heat. Because Pyrex retains heat. If you think it was a Pyrex slipper.

SPEAKER_01

It's a Pyrex slipper.

SPEAKER_00

Unbreakable.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

I reckon slipper was Pyrex.

SPEAKER_01

Glass slipper is a bit dodge, though, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

It is a bit dodge.

SPEAKER_01

If you were to like, if that breaks and it's in your foot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. On and in. What if someone stands on your toe?

SPEAKER_01

It snaps. Cracks. And you've got anything. It snaps.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like glass doesn't snap. No, it's not. It shatters.

Tiny Annoyances And Final Mind Bends

SPEAKER_01

It shatters. It shatters. It shatters, darling. What was that? I have no idea. So if you punch yourself. If you punch yourself and it hurts, are you strong or are you weak? Weak.

SPEAKER_00

We're only as strong as our weakest point.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Physics.

SPEAKER_01

Physics.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Chains. You're only as strong as the weakest link. The chain is only as strong as the weakest link. Yeah, yeah. Same as yeah. You know when we say people sleep like a baby?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, babies don't sleep that well. No. Notoriously don't sleep well.

SPEAKER_01

So why do we say that? I slept like a baby.

SPEAKER_00

Is it because when they do sleep, it's like they're they're gone? As in they're like, they are deep sleep.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Is it the is it the the depth of the sleep that we're measuring here?

SPEAKER_01

I mean I often say slept like a log.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, log is better.

SPEAKER_01

Log is better, but people do say I slept like a baby.

SPEAKER_00

And why do people say that? Yeah, I don't know. Change that one.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Change approved.

SPEAKER_01

Why do we press harder on the remote when the batteries are failing?

SPEAKER_00

It's a very good point.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Frustration.

SPEAKER_01

Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You do, don't you? Because you'd like you're watching telly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The batteries are going and you press harder like that.

SPEAKER_00

Another one of similar vein to slept like a baby.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Why do people call it a cake walk when walking with a cake is actually quite difficult? Because you don't want to drop it and it's heavy.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I think possibly. Yeah? What? What? No, I was saying because you no, because it's a cake because you don't want to drop it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but when someone says it's a cake walk, they mean it's easy. But it's not easy to walk a cake.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's the same as the baby crying thing.

SPEAKER_01

Shower thought.

SPEAKER_00

Shower thought.

SPEAKER_01

Shower thought.

SPEAKER_00

Um That was my own.

SPEAKER_01

Off the cuff. Do not try this, by the way.

SPEAKER_00

Do not try this at home.

SPEAKER_01

Do not try this at home. This comes with a what comes with a warning.

SPEAKER_00

You need to put a warning off on the screen.

SPEAKER_01

But you can't stand backwards on stairs.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you can't.

SPEAKER_01

You fall back. You have a tendency to just fall back, or is that just me?

SPEAKER_00

Just you. I think that paradox, uh that paradox, that shower thought means because a stairs is both up and down, you technically can't be backwards on a stairs. Because you're either going up or you're going down. You can't be backwards. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think it's about falling because I can walk down backwards from the stairs.

SPEAKER_01

I can't.

SPEAKER_00

You if you put your both hands on the rail up, this is this must be like a chronic illness addition. If you put if you put your hands on both sides of the stairs, you can get down backwards. Sometimes it's easier that way. I think that's what it means.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

I think you uh I think you screwed up there.

SPEAKER_01

I think I probably have. Yeah, yeah. The closed door button in elevators is just there for emotional support. Does it not work? Well, no, because it's because why why do you need a closed door button?

SPEAKER_00

To do it quicker.

SPEAKER_01

To stop other people getting in who you don't like.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's it's there's no one there, close the door. Boom, get down quicker. Why is that a shower thought?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. These are going off piece. These are I'm not a fan. Uh I think Finish on one. The sun is technically a star.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Which means that we're orbiting a giant ball of fire and just calling it Tuesday.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Because we're not calling it a star.

SPEAKER_01

We're not. There you go.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Well Was that a bit of an anticlimax?

SPEAKER_00

I guess every morning you you could say hello. No! Willy Wonka does. Hello, Starshine. The Earth says hello. Ah. There you go.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Also, one final shower thought. Oh God. When you get out of the shower.

SPEAKER_00

We.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And you dry yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We generally say the towel is now dirty. It's a dirty towel.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's wet.

SPEAKER_01

But you cleaned yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I wouldn't call it a dirty towel, I'd call it a wet towel. So then I'd use it again. I get a I get a good a good few days out of a towel.

SPEAKER_01

Do you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Do you use a new towel every shower?

SPEAKER_01

Well, not every not every shower. Probably once every couple of days I'll change the towel. Have you got one of those towel racks? We've got heated towel racks.

SPEAKER_00

Uh no, we've got hooks, towel hooks.

SPEAKER_01

Have you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

We um we had the option to have towel towel rails when when we bought the house, but we said no because it's too much money.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then we were like, oh, we could probably fit them ourselves. No, never did. Story of my life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That's it. That's it. That's it.

Outro And Where To Follow

SPEAKER_00

That's all all the ones I've got. Well, if you enjoyed this episode on uh shower thoughts, we have plenty more in the bank.

SPEAKER_01

And uh last thing.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just doing it for your editing.

SPEAKER_01

I know, it drives me insane.

SPEAKER_00

Insane. Uh Q the Outro. Thanks for joining us on Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter. Don't forget to follow us on all our socials and share the podcast with someone who'd love it. We are available on all streaming platforms. See you next time. Bye-bye.