Unsolved Mysteries Night

Ten mysteries. One rule: don’t reach for the paranormal if human behaviour already explains it. We sit down as Bonus Dad and Bonus Daughter and put a “top ten” list of infamous unsolved mysteries under the microscope, while Mum’s disapproving swear-jar voice pops up at exactly the wrong moments.

We start with the Tanzania laughter epidemic, where uncontrollable laughter spreads from schoolgirls to whole communities, complete with fainting, pain, and panic. From there we chase coded riddles and vanishing acts: the Somerton Man and the haunting “Tamam Shud” clue, the Springfield Three who disappear without a struggle, and Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, where the lack of a distress call and an off-course turn still fuels hijack theories. We also dip into stranger corners of true crime history, including Brazil’s lead masks case with its cryptic instructions, and the Max Headroom broadcast hijacking that feels like early internet chaos delivered through 1980s television.

As we work through each story, we keep coming back to Ockham’s razor and the psychology of the unknown: why missing context makes rumours multiply, and why “simple” doesn’t mean “comfortable”. By the end, we’ve confidently “solved” nine out of ten, but the Zodiac killer remains the one that won’t sit still, with unsolved ciphers and a trail of questions that refuses to close.

If you love unsolved mysteries, true crime podcasts, and smart, funny family debate, hit subscribe, share this with a mate who’ll argue back, and leave us a review with your theory: which case do you think we got completely wrong?

Transcript

Welcome To Bonus Dad Bonus Daughter

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Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad.

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Bonus Daughter, a special father-daughter podcast with me, Hannah.

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And me, Davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world.

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Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view and influences throughout the decades.

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Or you could choose one by contacting us.

The Swear Jar Soundboard

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Via email, Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok. Links in bio. Hello and welcome to another episode of Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter, very special episode. Because you always pick up when I don't say special. Every episode is special. This one is about unsolved mysteries.

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Yeah, and you've and you've not got your phone and you've not got your laptop in front of you because you're going to do this one blind.

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Blind, baby.

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Blind.

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Like, should I do it even blinder? No, I'm kidding.

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No, please don't do that.

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The whole episode blind. Should I? It might be quite funny.

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Yeah. So I've I looked at the top ten unsolved mysteries of the 20th century.

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Oh, 20th century. 20th century. Oh, damn.

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Not not this century. No, this is the 21st. This is the 21st century. Understand? Yeah. This is the 20th century. And I thought I'd just read out what they are and let's let's see if we can solve them. Oh let's see if we can solve some of these mysteries. Yeah. There's one on here. I'm ready. There's one on here that I put in on purpose because I know we've discussed this on other podcasts. Oh, have we? Okay. Yeah, and let's see what happens. So and the in Tanzania. Oh, okay. In Tanzania, in 1962.

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Pre you.

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Pre me. Yep. Pre me. It was 13 years before me.

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Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was. You can't do maths, you know this. I was thinking it was 10 years, but then I remembered that mum is 72 and you're 75. My bad. Yes.

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Carry on. Yes, your mum is a cougar.

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By three years. I'm so does that make an older woman. Does that make Mitchell my sugar daddy? Of one year and a few months. Sugar daddy Mitchell. Sugar daddy Mitchell.

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Oh, that's that deserves a Sugar Daddy Mitchell. It's great because I can use these now because we're going through like a proper system. So people will like them. I I have um, I will just say I have recorded.

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I know you said I'm excited.

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And I'm I'm waiting for you to do something for me to do.

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Oh no. Oh no, I don't know what my my line is.

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It's something I've done special just for you.

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Oh no. Yes. Oh no.

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Yes. It's something that you always do on the podcast.

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What? Is it swearing?

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Yeah.

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Oh, you want me to swear?

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I want you to swear.

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Do you want me to swear now?

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Go on.

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What like what kind of swear?

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Any kind of swear.

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A really bad one?

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Go on. Well, not a C, because that's a bit massive.

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Oh no, I wasn't I didn't that didn't even come to my mind.

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Okay.

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Alright, then fk. Hannah, you did swearies.

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I was not expecting my mother's voice. Because you said you recorded them.

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I was like, oh okay. I'll swear again. Uh shit. That's another pound in the swear jar. This is fun. Cock. Hannah, you did sweary. Is there not three? What's the one? No, no.

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Oh, the other one is.

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Fact. Check out the code. Oh, of course.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna get loads of your mum's gonna record loads for us.

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Yeah, brilliant. I'm a huge fan of that. I love being scolded on air.

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By your mother.

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That's another pound in the swear jar.

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It's it's you can hear the disappointment dripping from the word. That's another pound in the swear jar. Oh man, it makes me want to swear more. Brilliant.

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Oh, because I had this all set upstairs and I got your mum to record load. That's really funny. And bless it, she went, is that okay? Should I do it again? I was like, no, that's perfect. Yeah, but that is perfect.

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Mum, that is perfect. I know you're gonna listen to this episode. That was perfect.

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Oh, so anyway, back to Tanzania.

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Sorry, back to Tanzania. Let's go fly there. Let's teleport.

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Um, this is quite pertinent because you just laughed. Right? And in Tanzania in 1962, there was a laughter epidemic. So basically, what happened was it started with three schoolgirls in a board.

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I've been one of them before.

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What? A schoolgirl? Yeah. Yes. I was gonna say so have I, but I haven't.

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No.

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No, I've been a schoolboy.

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Yes.

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Carry on. In Tanzania, I've said Tanzania like 30 times now.

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And three thousand times. And uh you did sweary.

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Um basically these three schoolgirls in this boarding school in Tanzania just basically started laughing uncontrollably. Three girls. Hysteria. Hysteria. Right. Within days, dozens of students were affected. Yeah. The school ended up shutting down, but the laughter continued. Oh it ended up into it spread into nearby villages. It eventually affected over a thousand people. Mass hysteria. Mass hysteria. It wasn't just laughter, but but victims also experienced crying fits, fainting, breathing difficulties, and physical pain.

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Oh my gosh.

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So doctors searched for answers, they looked for toxins, infections, neurological causes, they found nothing. The explanation, they settled on a mass psychogenic illness and stress manifesting physically and spreading socially. But why laughter? Why did people start laughing? That was very naughty. Why start laughing? Why start laughing? Bob Larkin.

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Um I don't You'll regret that.

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I don't know. Honestly. Yeah. The only thing I can think of is is mass mass hysteria. We're going back to you know, I mean let's throw all the women in the in the mental institute because they have mass hysteria when actually they're just normal.

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Well laughter is quite infectious, isn't it?

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I think so. Laughter is infectious. You catch it like the flu. You do. Someone smiled at me today. I started smiling too. As I passed the corner, someone saw me grin. Then I finally realised I passed it on to him. I thought about my smile and realised it's worth a single smile like mine could travel along the earth. Um so if you feel the smile begin, don't leave it undetected. Quick, let's start an epidemic and get the world infected.

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Could that rhyme have come from this?

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Maybe, maybe. Do you know what that was?

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No.

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You know when we were talking the other day about monologues and you said you remembered some of your monologues when you still remember that was one of mine. Really? Okay, I didn't do it very well, but No, you did that very well. Thank you. Uh I can't believe I can still remember that.

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You do, you do remember things like that. I I remember phone numbers from when I was you know, from when I was a child.

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I remember my first phone number still.

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I won't say on air just in case someone has it, but I can't remember walking into why I walked into the kitchen sometimes.

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Yeah. What's that about?

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Yeah.

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Anyway, mass hysteria. The only thing I can think of is is yes, just mass hysteria. I've seen that uh in religious settings sometimes, that people just kind of get I don't know, they just just go with the flow, I guess. They get that kind of groove to dance or groove to Well, there was the dancing epidemic, weren't there?

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Years and years ago. Back in the Middle Ages where everyone just started dancing for no reason.

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Yeah.

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So this could be something quite similar to that.

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Yeah, just uh I can't explain it, but fun.

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Yeah, fun.

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Other than the fainting, perhaps not so fun.

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Well, you can understand why people would have crying fits because when you do laugh that hard, you do end up crying.

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And also lack of oxygen to the brain from breathing.

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Yeah, and and when you're laughing, your your innards are jiggling. So you know you probably end up with physical pain.

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No one needed that visual of you jiggling your your innards. That's when I learned what gurning was. Yeah. Um let's move away from two media.

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So so we think this one is mass psychosis.

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Yes.

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You think that's what that one is? Okay.

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Yeah, that is officially solved. That's solved by bonus dad, bonus daughters.

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Well done. Well done.

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Let's go. So second one in 1948. Oh, pre- you.

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Pre mu this is long pre me. Pre me. Uh we're going to Australia.

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Australia.

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G'day, mate.

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G'day.

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Good day.

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Throw another shrimp on the Barbie.

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You know, that's so so so stereotypical, isn't it? Sorry. You know, there's such a I love the scrubs.

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Throw another shrimp on the Barbie for me. All right, governor. That's what I got in America when I was in the um I was in the lift going down from my room uh to to the casino below, um, and they noticed that I was British. Um, and I said, Um, oh yeah, I'd like to go down, please. And then he went, All right, governor, to me. And I was like, Cool. I don't know how to respond.

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Last time we were in America, there was uh there was this this uh mother and and son, and we were in the queue for for one of the roller coasters, and I could see because we were talking and I could see the little boy who I mean it must have been about what 12 years old. Yeah, sure. And he kept listening, he kept listening and looking across. I'm curious, and I thought he's gonna say something at one point, and then the mum turned around and said, My son really wants to hear you say something. And I went, Is it bottle of water?

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That's the one I get a lot, yeah.

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And she went, Yeah, how did you know?

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Oh, we get it a lot, get it a lot.

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Bottle of water. Yeah, there you go.

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You say water, I would say water. Bottle of water, bottle of water, bottle of water, yeah. Because didn't Emma Stone say that it's really hard to say the word bottle, she thinks in in an English accent. She's like, Oh, it goes in the back of your throat. Bottle.

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I love when Hilary does an English accent. She goes on Mary Poppins.

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She does. It is so like London. It's so right, Mary Poppins! It's so funny. I love it when she does her English accent. It's so good. It's so good. What I love about Auntie Hillary is when she says my name, she says it so nicely. I just love the way she says my name.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I just wanted to say it. Uh not even that, it's just really nicely. I can't actually, I can't replicate what she says, but I just love the way she says my name. It's really nice. Yeah.

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So anyway, we're in Australia. We are in Australia. G'day. G'day, mate. And uh a man was found dead on a beach.

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Oh.

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Alright, he had no ID.

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Oh.

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There was no clear cause of death.

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Okay.

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And in his pocket, a scrap of paper which just said Tamam should. T A M A M S H U D.

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Oh.

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That was all it was.

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So not should as in line.

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Should, no, it's Tamam should.

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Okay.

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So also the the police then traced this thing to a book. Okay. It was a rare book. And inside the book was a phone number linked to a local nurse. So he'd written this phone number in this book.

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Okay.

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A mysterious code and a mysterious code was also written in there, which has never been solved.

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Okay.

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Right. The nurse, she had no idea who this guy was.

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Oh.

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Right.

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Oh my blood run cold.

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Yeah. And when they did an autopsy on him, it suggested poisoning.

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Okay.

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Right. But they didn't identify what poison it was.

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Oh.

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Mm-hmm. And people have been trying to crack this code for decades and no one knows what it is.

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The Tamman should.

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The Tamman should.

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Weird.

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It's like he left a message for someone that they never came forward to collect.

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Maybe they didn't need to, because it's on the internet, so they got their message eventually because it's whoever he was trying to get the message to. Maybe he was a spy.

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I think he was a spy.

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Yeah.

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Could have been a time traveler.

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Why do we not have that as a soundbite? I don't know.

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We haven't got that as a soundbite, have we?

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We don't have like a like a mystery.

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No, that doesn't work.

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That's not quite the right vibe.

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No, it was. I need to get a doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.

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You do need a doo-doo.

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Yeah. So what do you think?

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Um yeah, I think he's a spy.

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Spy, yeah.

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And I think he was poisoned for the knowledge that he possessed. And I hope that the person that needed that message has got it through the internet alone. Okay. Uh, if and hopefully at the right time. And I hope that stopped something like an apocalypse.

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What what year was this? 1948, so it was just after World War II.

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Yeah, he could have been a World War II spy.

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Could have been a World War II spy. Could have been. Could have been. Have you seen the film Knowing with Nicolas Cage?

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I've seen a lot of Nick Cage movies, but I don't think I've seen that one.

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That's it's actually really good, and it's it's setting about uh how uh through numerology he gets given messages about uh tragic events that are going to happen.

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It's a lot on mystery films, isn't it like National Treasure and Shit?

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He he just does anything, bless him, Nick Cage. He just does like you know Ghost Rider?

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Sure.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'll do that.

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Face off? Yeah, no problem.

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Face off.

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Oh, it just has it just has everything in it. That was boat chases.

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Funny the other week when Mitchell messaged us and just said, I've just seen face off, and it's probably the best film I've ever seen. How have you lived this long and not seen face off?

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He's going through the movies, he's doing it. He is, yeah. Better late than never.

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Yeah, yeah. Such a good film. Such a good film.

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It's a good one.

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Okay, now we're gonna go to 1992, so spring forwards. Whoa! Just pre-hanna.

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Pre-pre me, post-view. Pre-hanna.

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Well, post you, you're still alive. Just during you. During you. I would have been 17.

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Pretty hell. Christ, 17. Yeah, yeah, you would have been.

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Yeah. Would I? Yeah, 17. So in Missouri, in the United States of America. Wow, wow, wee wow. Three women vanished overnight. A mother, her daughter, and her daughter's friend.

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Oh.

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Vanished just like the Mary Celeste. There was no forced entry. There was no struggle. Their belongings were left behind.

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Right, okay.

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The cars were still in the driveway.

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Okay.

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And there was a disturbing message left on the answering machine.

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Oh, I've gone cold again.

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But apps but the police accidentally erased the message.

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Oh, that's a cover-up.

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Yeah, yeah.

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This is like taken.

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Yeah. So investigators, they chased leads for years. They looked at suspicious vehicles, they went do anonymous tips. They even checked out evacuation sites, excavation sites.

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Okay. They checked everywhere.

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There was no trace of these three people, and they've never been found.

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Gee.

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So it's not just the mother and daughter, because you think it'd been mother and daughter, but the mother and daughter and the and the daughter's friend as well.

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Devastating. So let's You let your kids go over for a sleepover and then they go missing. Awful.

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Yeah, so where do you think they went?

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Okay, so my theory is that the the the dad is not mentioned. I reckon he was a spy.

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Okay.

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And they uh had to use uh them as a motive for him to tell his secrets. And unfortunately the friend just happened to be there, so the friend could have corroborated the story.

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Okay.

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So as in corroborated the fact that they were taken somewhere or whatever, so they had to take the friend as well.

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Did the friend have a particular set of skills?

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No. No, I reckon they were just innocent, innocent ladies.

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Okay. Where are they now? Where do you think?

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Oh, they'll be dead.

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Oh, I know, you know, because they're in witness protection or in like uh you know, sipping margaritas on a beach somewhere.

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Well, I would like to hope so, but no, the likelihood is that they're probably dead. If there's no trace of them, then whatsoever.

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No trace of them whatsoever.

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I feel more sorry for the for the friend because she's got some parents somewhere that let her go for a sleepover and she never returned. That's really sad.

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That is really sad. That's really sad. Sad.

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So heart goes out to them. Yeah. Um but uh yeah, I I think I think the husband, I don't think the husband did it. I think the hus they were used as motive to get the husband to talk.

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Okay.

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Assuming well, assuming there's a father. Do you need to say single parent? You didn't say single parent. No, no, it's just a three word. Also, the covering up of the answer machine. Oh no, we accidentally deleted it, just seems a little bit too sus to me.

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Okay.

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A little too sus.

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Mm-hmm.

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Please don't just accidentally do that.

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Mm-hmm. Well, you'd be surprised.

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Mistakes happen, sure, but like.

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I'd be surprised how quite often mistakes do happen, things like that. They do things get erased, things go missing.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Do they listen to the music? How do they know it's a disturbing message if they deleted it? Do they listen to it once?

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Well, it doesn't say.

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It doesn't say.

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Doesn't say.

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I need all the information to create my report.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So this next one, number four.

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Moving on.

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Moving on. Number four. This one you've discussed occasionally.

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Okay.

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And this is a big mystery.

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Okay.

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And this does unsettle you.

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Oh, okay.

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Yep. Malaysia Airlines flight.

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Oh my god.

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MH370. This was in 2014. So 239 people board a routine flight from Kuala Lompa.

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Hang on, hang on, hang on.

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This is in the 20th century. It's not. Oh, sorry, 21st century. Well, I put this in for a reason.

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Okay, 21st century, let's go.

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21st century.

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So tell me all the facts.

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So 239 people.

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Yep.

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They get on the Malaysia's airline flight. The flight is going from Kuala Lompa to Beijing.

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Yep.

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Less than an hour later after takeoff, the plane disappears.

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Yep.

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From radar. Just disappears. There's no distress call.

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No.

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There's no clear emergency. The radar data showed that the plane turned deliberately off course just before it vanished. But satellite signal suggested it continued flying for hours before vanishing over the Indian Ocean. A massive international search was followed. And it's a mystery. What happened?

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What happened to the fact that there wasn't a distress call suggests to me that the plane was hijacked.

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Okay.

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And then that's why it went off course. Now I do assume that it did go down at some point after it went off the radars over the Indian Ocean. Is it near the uh Bermuda Triangle?

SPEAKER_01 18:22

No, it's not.

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Did they ever recover the black box? Do you know?

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No, they didn't. They did find some debris in the sea, though, didn't they? I believe. But I don't know if they're going to be able to do that. Yeah, much later on, didn't they? Much later on.

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Um, my my honest my honest thoughts on that this is a hijack. Yeah. Um, hence why there would be no distress signals. I don't think there was like an engine failure. I don't think anything of that, because the pilot would have alerted them straight away. Yeah, I think this is a hijack situation.

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You think so?

SPEAKER_04 18:48

Yeah, I do. But there are a couple of weird things about that flight that I've recently, well not recently found out, but when it first happened, because I was very interested in it. One of the blokes that was on it, I can't remember what nationality he was, I want to say like American or British, one of the Western side of the world. Yeah, weirdly enough left his wedding ring in his wallet and his phone behind.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:09

Which was weird. And the wife said that was so obscure that he would have done that and then gone on a flight, almost like he knew it was gonna happen. And now I think that's kind of weird, or horribly, he might have been leaving her. Like a wedding ring being left is kind of a statement, isn't it? It's like I want to end this marriage kind of thing. But I do find that quite odd that like why not take your wallet, like and phone. That's yeah, but I mean weird.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

I I never know where my wallet is half the time, right? Honestly, because I've got all my like cards on my phone. Weirdly, I'm the same actually. I don't know where my I like if you were to ask me where my wallet is, I've got a bloody clue. Yeah, it'll turn up somewhere, I'll be in the house somewhere, I'll find it when I'm looking for something else.

SPEAKER_04 19:50

Yeah, exactly, exactly. But when you need it, yeah, you're buying it. Oh, do not talk is this another unsolved mystery of this house? Yeah, the Is it like the socks epidemic?

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Yeah, so your mum has a habit of putting things in places where it could be anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 20:06

Same. Could be anywhere. It's something I've got from her genetically.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Yeah, exactly. I mean, let's take, for example, uh even the other day, I was trying to measure something up in the room. I said, Sharon, where's the tape measure? Where it always is in the cutlery drawer. What?

SPEAKER_04 20:17

Why is it in the cutlery drawer? I don't know. I don't know. That's weird.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Although we actually do have a tape measure in our cutlery drawer, but can I just explain that our cutlery drawer is massive? You know our cutlery drawer. So we do have a little tools section where we keep our like metal straws and shit.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 20:30

But yeah, anyway, anyway, sorry, bye-bye.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

On Friday, you know your mum went off to do a I think I can I can't actually remember if she's doing a course or if she's doing a lifeguard. I think she's I think she's doing she's saving lives. She is saving lives, yes, she is.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

I just don't know in what capacity.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

No. So she's her parting comment when she left was if you get time, can you cut the grass? Okay. Right. Simple request. Simple request. Simple request. Anyway, yesterday, yesterday, I thought, oh, it was about one o'clock in the afternoon. I thought to myself, I'm gonna go upstairs and I'm just gonna start recording one of the other tales. It's written, it's ready to go, just do a couple of test recordings. I go upstairs in my little room, I put the uh my screen around the back so I can eliminate the echo and all that round, so I've got my nice little vocal chamber. I hit record, the next door neighbour fires up his lawnmower. I was like, typical, because that's gonna come through the mic and it's gonna ruin it. I was like, Jesus Christ, the second I hit record, fired up the lawnmower. Right, okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:37

Is this a sign not to forget to know the lawn?

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Is this a sign your mum has told our next door neighbour to make sure he so I hear it, so I remember that I've got to cut the grass. Right? So I thought, while he's cutting the grass, I will take this opportunity to cut the grass. To cut the grass. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. So what I do, I stop the recording. I go downstairs. First off, the keys for the shed.

SPEAKER_04 22:05

Where are they?

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Where are they?

SPEAKER_04 22:06

Right, okay. Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

This is this is step one. On the hook. That's where they should be.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_04 22:12

Were they in the garage still?

SPEAKER_01 22:13

They were still they were in the shed door.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

Yeah, that's what I meant. They were in the shed door.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

Yeah, in the shed door with a padlock. That's secure. Well done. So that's problem number one. Took me 10 minutes to find these keys. I'm searching everywhere. I'm looking in drawers. I'm looking in cupboards. I'm looking absolutely everywhere. Okay. And all I've got is your mum's voice in my head going, You don't do a proper look. You're doing a man look. You're not looking properly. And I'm going, they've got to be here somewhere. In the end, I then go outside and they're in the door. Yeah. Problem solve number one. Pull out the lawn mower. No, we used to have an electric lawnmower, so you plug it in and have you got a petrol one? No.

SPEAKER_04 22:51

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

We've got one of these lawnmowers where you have a battery pack. Oh. Right. Which goes into the lawn mower and but you charge the battery.

SPEAKER_04 22:58

Right. The battery's dead.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

The battery's dead. But we've got two of these batteries.

SPEAKER_04 23:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

My heart sinks. Now I'm on a hunt for the other battery. Right. It could be anywhere. Right. It could be absolutely anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

Any spider crawling cards?

SPEAKER_01 23:14

I'm looking, and so immediately I'm going, right, I've just opened up every single cupboard in the house looking for these keys. Did I see a battery when I was at no. Normally the battery sits on the shelf, which is just outside here.

SPEAKER_03 23:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Yeah. The charger's there.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Oh right.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

But no battery.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

Oh, bloody hell.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

No battery.

SPEAKER_04 23:30

Can you can you, whilst you're looking for the other battery, can't you charge the other one?

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Yes, but it takes hours to charge.

SPEAKER_04 23:35

Ah.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

So I'm hunting absolutely everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 23:38

Okay. This is a very economical.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Yeah. To be honest, this should have been a 10-minute job.

SPEAKER_04 23:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

I'm now an hour in.

SPEAKER_04 23:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

And not a single blade of grass has been cut.

SPEAKER_04 23:48

Yeah. By which time the the neighbours finished the lawn.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

I'm yes, by which time I could have started recording. I'm getting frustrated. There are swears. There is anger. There is all sorts. I mean, it could literally, and I lit I was I'm in the I'm in the garage, I'm pulling it. This could literally be absolutely anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

Where was it?

SPEAKER_01 24:07

In the shed.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

It was in the spider-infested shed.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

It was in the fire spider-infested shed.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Yeah. So I eventually found it.

SPEAKER_04 24:12

Did you cut the grass?

SPEAKER_01 24:13

I did cut the grass. The grass has been cut.

SPEAKER_04 24:15

It's a good husband. There we are.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

But yes, I just thought I'd relay that story. That was a long story. Shall we go back to the other? So that was one mystery solved.

SPEAKER_04 24:21

Yeah, so Malaysian aircraft was hijacked, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

It's hijacked.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 24:25

Hence why no distress calls would make sense to me.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Uh so in 1966, two men were found dead on a hillside in Brazil.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Yeah. There was no injuries, there was no signs of violence, but they were making or they were wearing homemade lead masks.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

Lead poisoning.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

Nearby notes read like instructions and said take capsules, protect metals, await signal. Witnesses reported strange nights, strange lights in the sky that night.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

But no capsules were ever found, and no cause of death was ever confirmed.

SPEAKER_04 25:12

That sounds like end of the world sacrifice.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

What's occurring?

SPEAKER_04 25:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Interesting you say sacrifice. Yeah, like you mean like the the cult that we were talking about at the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:27

I went straight to the cult, like that is something that they'd indoctrinated on themselves. But a bit like, have you seen that movie with Emma Stone in it where she's Oh no, that ruins the plot. Bugonia? Bogonia? Is it no? What? Bug?

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Bugs.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

It's a newer film where Emma Stone is in it and she's the CEO of a company, and then there's two people that are a little bit radicalized. They've got a mental illness where they think that they're all there's aliens among them.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Oh right.

SPEAKER_04 25:57

Have you not seen it?

SPEAKER_01 25:58

No.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

I've not seen that.

SPEAKER_04 26:01

Yeah, it's called Bogonia. Bogonia or something.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 26:03

I don't know. I don't have my phone.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

But interestingly enough, it does say in the final line, so you actually said before I had a chance to finish that, that it did seem like it was ritualistic.

SPEAKER_04 26:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:16

I think it's culty. You think it's culty? Culty.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Culty.

SPEAKER_04 26:20

Even if it's just a cult of two.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Yeah. Take capsules, protect metals, await signal.

SPEAKER_04 26:25

Yeah. That's culty.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:28

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

So you think some weird cult? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 26:31

Or mental illness.

Max Headroom TV Hijack

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Mm-hmm. I remember this one.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

In the year of our Lord, 1987.

SPEAKER_04 26:39

87?

SPEAKER_01 26:40

87. I was.

SPEAKER_04 26:41

Oh my gosh. How can you not do 10 plus 2? Carry on.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Have you heard of the Max Headrun broadcast hijacking?

SPEAKER_03 26:51

Mmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

So during a normal TV broadcast was suddenly interrupted. Masked figure appeared. Distorted, erratic, unsettling, and spoke nonsense.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Was laughing, moving on predictably. Engineers later confirmed that the hijacker had used a powerful signal to override the broadcast, which was incredibly expertise at the time.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

The FBI investigated, there were no suspects, no arrests, and to this day no one knows who did it.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

It sounds like to me, someone very intelligent just wanted to have a little bit of a laugh.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

I don't think there's any ill intent. I just think they wanted to see if they could do it.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:33

And they did it.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

They did it.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

Yeah. That's how I feel that went down. I don't think there's anything remotely suspicious or spooky about it. I think it was a prank.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Okay, so interestingly enough, this incident is partially responsible for the tails and momentum frequency.

SPEAKER_03 27:50

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Similar thing. Gotcha. What I do in that. Yeah, gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 27:54

Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Yeah, so you think it's just a prank.

SPEAKER_04 27:57

You think it's a prank? Yeah. Solved.

Hinterkaifeck Farmhouse Murders

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Okay. Immediately. Immediately solved. Uh so in 1922.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

1922. I was pre-Davey.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Pre your mother as well, 50 years before your mother.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

I did quick maths. Yeah, so how many is that for you? 53! Oh my god. You're only three years younger. So you just add three.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Oh dear lord. So in Germany in 1922, in a remote farm, uh, there were an entire family died.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

Not so they were murdered.

unknown 28:33

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

But days days before the murders, the family reported footsteps in the snow leading to the house, but not away.

SPEAKER_04 28:41

Oh. They lived in the walls.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Strange noises from the attic.

SPEAKER_04 28:46

They lived in the attic. I was close.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Unfamiliar items appeared. And one by one, they were killed. They were all lured into the barn and murdered.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Yeah. The killer then entered the home and finished the rest of the family.

SPEAKER_04 29:05

Of the family.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

The entire family was murdered.

SPEAKER_04 29:07

So who did he coax to the barn?

SPEAKER_01 29:08

Uh a couple of pe a couple of them to the barn, murdered, and then went in and killed the rest of them.

SPEAKER_04 29:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Now what makes it truly disturbing? Is that after the murders.

SPEAKER_04 29:21

We actually might have to put a little uh sensitivity warning on this.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Yeah, yeah. Uh after the murder. So animals were fed, food was eaten, and smoke rose from the chimney because obviously they did that how long the bodies were there for. So someone lived in the house after they were murdered.

SPEAKER_03 29:36

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Ooh. Police interviewed loads of people. Nobody was ever charged, and no one knows what happened.

SPEAKER_04 29:44

How were they killed?

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Uh doesn't say. Doesn't say.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 29:50

A killer.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Just a killer. Where do?

SPEAKER_04 29:53

Oh yeah, just someone that that wanted to not have a good day. No, I think it's likely to be someone was living in their attic and wanted the house.

unknown 30:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:05

Um squatters. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't know, maybe they were super desperate. I don't know, like to I don't know. That's really what what was around that time, 1922, so it was post-World War I was in the World War II.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Pre-World War II.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

It was a remote farm in Germany. So remote remote That's just weird, isn't it? It's just weird. So that one will remain unsolved?

SPEAKER_04 30:30

Oh yeah, I just think I just yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:33

Can't believe you got away with it. Or she got away with it.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

Or they?

SPEAKER_04 30:36

They. What if they killed each other? It was like a suicide pact. Like what it was one of the family remained, but then could be.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Could be.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

Yeah.

Flannan Isles Lighthouse Vanishing

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yeah. Should we move on to the next one? Yes. That one will remain unsolved.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Okay, so in the Flannel Isles, Flannon Isles, there was a lighthouse.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

What yeah?

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Uh this is in the year 1900.

SPEAKER_04 30:59

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

So 126 years ago. Quick maths.

SPEAKER_04 31:03

Nice. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

So there were three lighthouse keepers.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Yeah. A remote island.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Lighthouse. I'm with you. Yeah, I'm with you. When the relief crew came to swap over with the three people that were already in the lighthouse. Okay. There was the lighthouse was still functioning. Super. Meals were left unfinished on the table.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

Yeah. And one chair was overturned.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Two sets of gear were missing, which suggested two of them went outside. Yeah. During a meal. So they're outside gear.

SPEAKER_04 31:40

So emergency got on, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Yeah. So the official explanation was.

SPEAKER_04 31:46

What actually happened to him? You haven't said that part.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Oh, they all disappeared.

SPEAKER_04 31:49

Oh, they disappeared. Oh, they didn't. They weren't dead or anything.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

No, they just completely disappeared. So the official explanation is that a rogue wave took two of them out.

unknown 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Yeah. That's when things that washed them away. They went outside, rogue wave probably took two of them out. What about third matey? Where's he?

SPEAKER_04 32:05

Hmm. Yeah, so two, so it an interrupted meal suggests something like an emergency. Something they they were like, right, we need to we need to sort something out, which makes the overturned chair more plausible. Like, oh shit, we've got to get up and do something.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Quickly put the gear on, middle food, and go outside to deal with something.

SPEAKER_04 32:21

Um yeah. Um, as for the third.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Yeah, well, I'm told mate.

SPEAKER_04 32:26

But they kept the lighthouse going.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

We shall call him Simon.

SPEAKER_04 32:29

Perhaps he perhaps he just did like a little looky loo, like outside of the lighthouse, like a little like and then he got wiped out too. Like he didn't have the gear on, he just he just had a little nosy Yeah. John? Bill?

SPEAKER_01 32:41

It's Simon. Yeah, it's Simon. Where are you at?

SPEAKER_04 32:44

Yeah, and then he got swept by the wave as well, perhaps. They were all wave swept.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:49

That seems the most logical explanation. Occam's razor, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Yeah, Ockham's. I mean it's quite blowy.

SPEAKER_04 32:54

Yeah. Then you go and a remote island. Yeah, it's unlikely it's foul play, in my opinion. I think it is more likely uh an act of God, if you will.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Yeah. Solved.

The Isdal Woman Spy Theory

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Solved. So in 1970, there was a lady that was found dead in a Norwegian valley.

SPEAKER_04 33:13

Oh my. Just before you were born.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

She was burned. Oh. Surrounded by mystery. They investigators uncovered multiple passports and different names. Wigs. Yes, my woman. Yeah, wigs and coded notes.

SPEAKER_04 33:29

Oh, she's a spy. They tracked Why are all of these spies? Come on.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Yeah. They tracked her that she travelled across Europe under false identities.

SPEAKER_04 33:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Even her teeth had been altered, which made because there was no dental records.

SPEAKER_04 33:44

Clever lady.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Yeah. Autopsy reveals of her death as being sedatives and fire.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

So she was possibly drugged. Drugged and then burned.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

And set on burn set on set on burned, set on fire.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

And burned.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

No country ever claimed her.

SPEAKER_04 34:01

Yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

And so she's basically she's no one knows her true identity because they've just got all these different passports. No true, and so they just don't know who she is.

SPEAKER_04 34:10

She was on the run from something, weren't she?

SPEAKER_01 34:12

You reckon, or do you think she was a spy?

SPEAKER_04 34:14

That's what I mean. Like she's either she she well, clearly she needed to hide her identity. So she well, it's one of two ways. She could be completely innocent and on the run from something, someone, somewhere. Um, hence why no one's gonna claim her. And then the other one is she's a criminal on the run.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

She's a criminal.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

So either way, I mean, sedatives in burning, that doesn't sound like a suicide to me. No. That sounds like foul play.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

That sounds like foul play, doesn't it? Well It's Rumuldu, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 34:43

I mean, it doesn't necessarily, she could give herself a sedative and couldn't be on the run anymore.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

Giving herself a sedative, went to light a cigarette, dropped the cigarette, accidentally dashed herself in petrol.

SPEAKER_04 34:54

Well not accidentally, I think she probably just maybe. Maybe it's maybe she's a shwa shag.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Yeah, maybe swashwag.

SPEAKER_04 35:01

Yeah, I don't know. Unsold? I like to think she was a spy.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

Yeah. On the run. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:06

Clever lady.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Clever lady.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

Until the end, perhaps.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:09

But maybe that's what she wants.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

She was a woman on the run.

SPEAKER_04 35:14

Yeah. Yeah, I do think so.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Multiple identities.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

Yeah. Tune in. That's a really gruff gruff.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

The is the woman. Is the is the woman.

Zodiac Killer And Unsolved Ciphers

SPEAKER_01 35:29

Okay, well. So, our final mystery. This one.

SPEAKER_04 35:33

We've paced this episode very well.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

We have indeed, haven't we? This one is a it's been films have been made about this. Oh. This is quite possibly the most one of the most famous serial killers who has never been identified.

SPEAKER_04 35:48

Ah.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

The Zodiac killer.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

Zodiac killer. I knew you were going to say that.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

Zodiac killer. So he's on a ripper. He or she.

SPEAKER_04 35:55

She, yeah, it could be she. Or multiples.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

A killer who turned crime into a puzzle.

SPEAKER_04 36:00

Just the ones one, actually.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

He sent was Leslie Till Leslie Tiller murdered.

SPEAKER_05 36:05

Leslie Tiller was fing murdered. Hannah, you did swearies. I was quoting something, mother.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

So the Zodiac Killer was a killer who turned crime into a puzzle. He sent letters to newspapers, including cryptograms. Um, some some of the letters were solved.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

As in, but but others remain unsolved. They don't know what the letters mean. He claimed multiple victims, although the true number is completely unknown. Yeah. Don't know how many people the zodiac killer killed. And despite decades of investigation, he was never definitively identified.

SPEAKER_03 36:43

Man.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

So who is he? Is he still alive? Or she is or she? Is he still out there? I did hear one theory.

SPEAKER_04 36:50

Oh, shape.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

I did hear one theory.

SPEAKER_04 36:52

This one puzzles me. I don't I don't know. I'm not intelligent enough to solve this one. And I actually think this one does make sense.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

There was a gap, quite a significant gap, between the killings.

SPEAKER_03 37:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Where nothing happened. And the theory goes he was arrested for something else and in prison for another crime, therefore couldn't kill.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

Yeah. Okay, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Then came out and then started killing again. So they might have actually caught the Zodiac killer and put him in prison. I don't know, say for carjacking or something like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Oh damn.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:24

Mmm. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Tough one. See, the thing is as well, when when when I was saying about I can't remember what episode it was that we were we were talking about, and it was about uh, you know, the unknown is what makes things scary. When you do find out what it is at the end, it's often a bit of a oh, just normal Ockham's razor.

SPEAKER_04 37:44

Yeah. It's normally the simplest explanation, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Exactly. I saw um I saw an image the other day where it said Banksy had finally been identified, and it said a 50-year-old builder, something from Bristol. Yeah. And it's a picture of this guy, and it said, Oh, Banksy is just a normal person. It's like of course he's gonna be a bloody normal person.

SPEAKER_04 38:00

Yeah, yeah. He's not like I'd love that to be true, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

Yeah, I still think it's Neil Buchanan.

SPEAKER_04 38:06

Heart attack man. Is he from Bristol? Yeah. Shit, it's him. Do you know what? Honestly. I'd love it to be him. That would be the greatest reveal of my entire life. That is my purpose on this earth.

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If Banksy turned out to be Neil Buchanan, that would be amazing.

SPEAKER_05 38:26

That would be absolutely hope that's fing true. Bloody hell. That's another pound in the swear jar. I hope that's true. I so hope that's true.

SPEAKER_04 38:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

Neil Buchanan from heart attack.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Yeah. That'd make my day. That would make my day.

SPEAKER_01 38:44

Okay, so if I run through the list and see how many of these Hannah has solved. So number one, the laughter epidemic. Hannah solved it.

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Mass hysteria.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Yeah. The Tam and Should case, the Band Night Dead on Beach in Australia. Spy. Spy, Hannah solved it. The Springfield three, the three women vanish overnight.

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Uh spy.

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Hannah solved it.

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The father spy.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Yeah. Malaysia Airlines.

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Hijacked.

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Yeah. So four, four out of four. The lead masks case.

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Uh mental illness.

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No, culti.

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Oh, cultivat, yeah, but but yeah.

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Five for five. Max Headroom.

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What was all?

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The broadcast.

SPEAKER_04 39:18

Oh, um, it was it was just a prank.

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It was a prank. Six. Six for six. The remote farm in Germany, the little Germany, the the three, the murders.

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I think it's just a killer. Or one of the family members.

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Seven for seven. The lighthouse.

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Wave.

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Wave.

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Act of god.

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The Isdal woman.

SPEAKER_04 39:36

She was the um You said spy, didn't you? Dental record one, yeah. Uh I'll go with spy.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Nine out of nine, you've solved all of these. Yep. And number ten, the Zodiac killer.

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Yeah, unsolved.

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Unsolved.

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Yeah.

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So nine out of ten.

SPEAKER_04 39:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

You've heard it here, first folks. Hannah has solved all of these.

SPEAKER_04 39:52

It's a Docum Razor. It's the simplest explanation, is normally the one. The one.

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There you go.

SPEAKER_04 39:57

Yeah.

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Well done.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

Well, if you enjoyed this episode of Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter, we've got plenty in the bank. The only thing left to say is cue the outro.

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Well.

Closing Thoughts And Where To Follow

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