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Retro Sweets We Still Crave - Part One
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A single paper bag of penny sweets could define an entire Saturday. We crack open the jar-lined doors of the 1980s sweet shop and taste our way through the treats that shaped a generation: sherbet dips, cola cubes, flying saucers, Blackjacks, Fruit Salads, and the stubborn charm of toffee that threatened every filling. This is a father-daughter tour through memory, taste, and the tiny rituals that make sweets feel like time travel.
We get honest about flavour loyalties and grudges. One of us will die on the hill that Refreshers are the OG fizzy chew; the other swears Maoam is the upgrade. We trade strategies for eating Cadbury Creme Eggs, confess to Curly Wurly catastrophes, and debate whether chocolate belongs in the fridge. Some icons divide the room: Turkish Delight gets a ferocious thumbs down, Bounty earns a cautious pass, and Caramac and Pacers prompt a mint-flavoured nostalgia check. Along the way we trace brand evolutions—Opal Fruits into Starburst, Marathons into Snickers—and unearth lost gems like 5-4-3-2-1 bars and mint Toffos.
There’s history and myth here too. We revisit the urban legend that Space Dust was banned for sounding like “angel dust,” untangle why popping candy felt rebellious, and confront the relic of chocolate cigarettes, a reminder of how marketing once blurred play with imitation adulthood. American imports make cameos—Snow Caps, vending-machine Starburst—and so does shrinkflation, the modern plot twist that leaves our favourite bars smaller than we remember.
This is part one of a two-part sugar map, ending the tour in the 80s and setting up the 90s, 2000s, and a promised dive into Polish sweets next. If nostalgia is a sense, this episode is its taste test—funny, opinionated, and full of small details that unlock big memories. If you smiled, argued with us out loud, or remembered the exact feel of a paper bag in your hand, hit follow, share it with a friend who loves retro candy, and leave a review with your most controversial sweet take.
Welcome And Listener Request
SPEAKER_02Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad.
SPEAKER_04Bonus Daughter, a special father-daughter podcast with me, Hannah.
SPEAKER_02And me, Davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world.
Why Sweets Matter Across Generations
SPEAKER_04Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view. And influences throughout the decades. Or you could choose one by contacting us via email, Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok. Links in bio. Hello and welcome to a very special episode of Bonus Dad Bonus Daughter, where we're going to talk about sweets and chocolate and all things nice.
SPEAKER_02Well, this is actually quite a special episode because this And treats and all things nice. This was an episode that was requested, by the way. I don't think I told Rob.
SPEAKER_04It was requested by a listener. It was requested by a listener. We haven't done one of these for a while.
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_04So this We very rarely get requested.
SPEAKER_02Apparently, this is his specialist subject.
SPEAKER_04His specialist subject.
SPEAKER_02His specialist subject, it's Rob.
SPEAKER_04Um, shout out to Rob.
Penny Sweets And Shrinkflation
SPEAKER_02So yeah, Rob. Yep. So Rob will be listening to this. And I I sent him a message. He said to me, he said, uh, I said, you'll have to do a mess, you'll have to do an episode on sweets. So I sent on our chat the other day, I said, right, give me a list of your top ten childhood sweets that you used to have. Well, he sent me loads. He sent me loads. And of course, because he's married to married to Anja, I went, uh Who's been on this podcast? She has indeed. She's been a guest on the podcast. I did say to Anja, I said, Oh, Polish sweets. Because obviously she grew up in Poland. Yes. And we'll come on to them later on. So I've got some Polish ones on here. And she sent me a load, and the first one I was like, I read it what it was. It said warm ice cream. I was like, what? That sounds odd. And then when you actually read the ingredients of what it is, I went from ooh to mmm.
SPEAKER_04Isn't warm ice cream just yogurt?
SPEAKER_02It no, it's made from eggs. It's it's yeah, it's really bizarre. But there's like chocolate on it and stuff. It's and I'm like, I can get behind it if there's chocolate. And I started off thinking, ooh, but then I went, hmm. Looks nice. So yeah, so this is actually like how we started sort of like Gen X versus millennial versus yeah. So we're kind of going from sweets throughout the ages. Let's go. When I was a kid and when your mum was a kid, and from when Rob was a kid and other Gen X's, our our sweets from the 80s to 90s to now.
SPEAKER_04Let's go.
Blackjacks, Fruit Salads, And Aniseed Wars
SPEAKER_02So in the 80s, we used to go to sweet shops a lot. And we used to buy penny sweets, a lot of them.
SPEAKER_04Can you imagine sweets being a penny these days?
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_04Doesn't exist.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It's like, did you know Freddos as well? Freddos were never 5p, they were only over 10p.
SPEAKER_04Oh, they were only uh although they've got bloody smaller.
SPEAKER_02We'll come on to 25p, aren't they? Now we'll come on to that about how sweets uh how we're getting scammed now with sweets and the size of shrinkflation. Shrinkflation, the size of Yorkie bars, especially.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yes, and not for girls. That we'll come on to that. We'll come on to that. So we used to have a lot of penny sweets, and the royalty, the absolute creme de la creme of penny sweets for me anyway, were black jacks and fruit salads. Do you ever ever have blackjacks and fruit salads?
SPEAKER_04Fruit salad, yes. Blackjacks are blackjacks not licorice.
SPEAKER_02They are essentially licorice. Yeah, not black. But they used to turn your tongue black.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04What a novelty as a kid. I know. Oh, my tongue's a different colour. Oh no, I love blackjacks. I used to enjoy um well no, I didn't used to enjoy slushies, but they also make your tongue either blue or red.
Refreshers, Wam Bars, And Sour vs Sweet
SPEAKER_02They were licorice, but they were more aniseed. Yeah, not. They were kind of like an aniseed flavor. No, I used to love an we used to get aniseed balls as well.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02And they used to have a little silver thing in the middle of the aniseed ball.
SPEAKER_04Can you is it edible?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02It was like a hard little silver, silver aniseed ball.
SPEAKER_04Oh no.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Can you crunch it?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh no. Yeah, like uh no. I'm not a fan of aniseed at all.
SPEAKER_02Love oh blackjacks, really. It does say here, actually. I did write down here, they're the marmite of sweets.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're not for me.
SPEAKER_02You know, you either, you know, love them or hate them. Yeah, you either love them or you hate them. But I used to love blackjacks. Nice. But you've had fruit salads.
SPEAKER_04I have had fruit salads. They're the ones that are like pink and yellow, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a bit of a bit like a rhubarb cre what are they called? Rhubarb and custard, a little bit.
SPEAKER_02But chewy.
SPEAKER_04I'm not fan. Is that the theme tune?
SPEAKER_02That was a theme tune to a kid's as an 80s kids programme called rhubarb and custard.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. Yeah, that's lost on me.
SPEAKER_02Because that used to be a dessert as well when I was a kid. People used to make rhubarb and custard. I mean, I can't think of they no. No. I used to hate the taste of rhubarb. So the other things we used to have similar to the penny chews, we used to have a thing called refreshers.
SPEAKER_04Now, refreshers.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I only see refreshers in retro sweet mix. Yes, this is what it is. Yeah. I actually don't like refreshers. They're like they're like the poor man's malwam. And I will I will take that to my grave.
SPEAKER_01Poor man's malwam.
SPEAKER_04It's a poor man's poor man's malwam.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02It's a love for they were quite chunky when I was a kid. And you'd like bite into them.
SPEAKER_04Well they're malwam size. Yeah.
Toffee, Highland Teeth-Testers, And Love Hearts
SPEAKER_02But yeah, you said like the fizzy centre, fizzy like lemon chewy.
SPEAKER_04I I think it's because I don't like lemon. I don't like citrus. And so refreshers for me are like, mmm.
SPEAKER_02Well, they did it did kind of refreshes with the start of it. And then the things like mawams and all that, I think, were born from refresher. So I think so, yeah. So refreshers are essentially terrible. You say they're a poor man's mawwam. I'll say they're the OG.
SPEAKER_04They're the OG.
SPEAKER_02They're the OG.
SPEAKER_04They're the god.
SPEAKER_02They are the god tier of fizzy lemon kind of sparkly, sweeties, mixed in a I don't do sour either, and I think that's again another reason.
SPEAKER_04No, yeah.
SPEAKER_02We'll come on to sour tastics and haribo later on. Tangastics. Tangastics, yeah. Similar to kind of the refresher, they had a thing called the Wambar. Have you ever heard of the Wambar? No. No? So they were born in 1980, and they were kind of like this bright pink kind of like confectionery thing, and it had sour crystals all in it.
SPEAKER_03Ooh.
SPEAKER_02So but there was all multicoloured.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_02So you think of like neon 80s, it was like the quintessential 80s kind of sweet.
SPEAKER_04So it looked, it looked like the 80s.
SPEAKER_02It looked like it looked and tasted like the 80s.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna give it a quick Google.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, the Wambar.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you can talk about the next one.
SPEAKER_02Uh we also used to have a thing called Highland Toffee. And that used to, I mean that that was like proper, proper hard toffee. And you used to worry about your teeth with that. So you used to get stuck to your teeth.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay, yeah. I'm not a fan of toffee either. Oh you quite. Oh, they kind of look like sorry, the wam bar kind of looks a little bit like like ribbon.
SPEAKER_02Let's have a look. I've got a picture.
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah. I don't know if you can see. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They kind of look like um ribbon sweets. Like too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, a little bit like that. Sorry.
SPEAKER_04Beh, beh-mm. Sorry, toffee, Highland Toffee.
SPEAKER_02Highland Toffee.
Flying Saucers, Rainbow Drops, And Texture
SPEAKER_04Yeah, not heard of that one, but toffee I mean is toffee.
SPEAKER_02It says here, it says known for being dangerously hard, is what it said in one of the articles that I think.
SPEAKER_04That would that would remove some um remove some fillings. Yeah, yeah. So I did Luck and a Claire.
SPEAKER_02To get to get these, I'd I'd I'd say Rob sent me a load, but I also did a Google of like top ten suites from the 80s, top 10 suites from the 90s, and things like that. And looking at some of the pictures, I was I was proper going down memory lane. Going, oh I remember that, I remember that, I remember that. Um these are still around today, but we did have them as kids. Love hearts.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm familiar with Love Hearts. Um again, they're kind of a Sherpety type thing. Yeah. They're okay. Uh they're not my favourite if I'm honest, but I I'll eat them. And I quite like it. I enjoy making sentences up with them, no matter how dirty they may come up.
SPEAKER_02Um kiss me, be mine.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Some of them you can get slightly more saucy ones these days as well, which is quite fun. Um a lot of people have them as wedding favours because they're love-inspired, Valentine's.
SPEAKER_02Well, similar to Love Hearts, we know the the substance that the substance that a love heart is made out of. The chalky. The chalky kind of sweet things. We used to get bracelets as well, made of the same thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like candy bracelets, candy necklaces, yeah. Yeah. Those I didn't mind so much. They were a bit nicer because I think they were in smaller quantities. Yeah. A love heart on its own is a bit just like, yeah, I'm just eating chalk.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'll take it or leave it. A love heart, I wouldn't I wouldn't go out of my way to buy a pack of love hearts. But if they were there as a wedding favour, I'd probably munch on them.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Like Palma Violets.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but I like lavender. I like Palma Violets.
SPEAKER_02I like Palma Violets. Yeah. Can you remember what I did to your mum with Palma Violets?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_02So remember back in COVID when your mum, because your mum did, she was really ill with COVID, wasn't she? Uh, we I we played a game one night, and that's where I was feeding her things to see what she could taste. Yeah. Yeah. And I got a load of palm of violets and was like, close your eyes and putting palm of violets in the mouth. She couldn't taste it.
SPEAKER_04No. They're quite strong. They're quite strong.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, flying saucers.
SPEAKER_04I actually do remember these as a child as well. I I have not seen them in a very, very long time. And they were like, um, they were almost like encased in like papery, that um melty paper. Rice paper. Rice paper, that's what I'm talking about. Rice paper. And then they're were they filled with sherbet as well? They were, yeah.
Sweet Shops, Jars, And American Imports
SPEAKER_02Because the rice paper was tasteless at the moment, and then you get into the sherbety bits the middle.
SPEAKER_04I don't think I vibe with the texture of a flying sorcer.
SPEAKER_02Well, when I think about what is sweet now to what we had in the 80s, some of it is a little bit kind of I mean, it was a little bit tasteless.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But some of it wasn't. So because tasteless, but also tasteless in a really strong way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, because your mum said to me we used to have these things called rainbows. Yeah. Now I remember rainbow drops. Now, the word rainbow drops that I remember were like these tasteless kind of rice papery, crispy things that were all coloured. Yeah. And that they were completely tasteless. Yeah. I I never used to like them.
SPEAKER_04They just taste sweet. Yeah. That's all. They were just sugar, weren't they? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, when I think about um, because I remember going when we used to go shopping, because we used to do shopping on Saturdays when I when I was a kid, and I used to hate it. Saturday mornings we go to Tesco's or whichever shop was the closest one. Other shops are available. Um not sponsored by Tesco, wish we were. Yeah. And we used to get a thing called an iced bun. And it was literally just a finger roll with ice. Yeah, with ice on top.
SPEAKER_04But why did that taste so good?
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_04It's so simple. You could make that at home. It's a hot dog bun with icing on it. Yeah. But they taste so good.
SPEAKER_02I know, but it's it's bread and icing. It's sweet bread, isn't it? It's sweet bread, yeah. Sweet bread. Yeah, yeah. But yeah.
SPEAKER_04I do remember those.
SPEAKER_02I don't think you get them anymore, do you?
SPEAKER_04I think you could in a bakery, but I remember them being at school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But yeah, crazy. Cola cubes. And little cola bottles.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, cola bottles, yes, I remember. But cola cubes in a cubed format. Yeah, yeah, little cola cubes. Were they like a big colour?
SPEAKER_02No, they were quite hard. Oh hard. They were quite hard. Quite hard. Okay. Where I used to live in Sleaford, we used to have a sweet shop, and I can't remember the name of the sweet shop. Ed, I know you listen. What was the name of the sweet shop?
SPEAKER_04Lucky can answer us now. We're channeling Ed right now.
SPEAKER_02I know, but he'll he'll mention it on uh on the chat. He'll mention it on the chat. Um Ed wants to come on, by the way.
Cola Cubes, Bonbons, And Dip Dabs
SPEAKER_04Ed is welcome. Ed is welcome. I don't think I've met Ed.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no, you've never met Ed now. Uh so we we used to have a shop. Oh god, I can't remember the name of the bloody shop in Sleaford, but you used to go in and there were literal jars all up and down the can and you would you would like pick.
SPEAKER_04I bet the I bet the sweet shops either had someone's name like John's sweet shop or it was a pun.
SPEAKER_02Wilson's, was it Wilson's? Wilson's sweet shop.
SPEAKER_04If it if it is someone's name, I've absolutely aced it.
SPEAKER_02I think it was, I think it was Wilson's sweet shop. And you have all these sweets along the back, and you said, like, yeah, choose and you go like cola bottles or fruit salads or blackjacks.
SPEAKER_04There are some shops still like that. There's a there's an American sweet shop, I think it's Oso Sweet in um in Norwich that still has like all of the jars that you can go in and pick stuff. But they have a lot of American sweets in there because I love I love snow caps, as you know.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's trying to snow caps.
SPEAKER_04Did I bring you some back last time? You actually didn't. I didn't, didn't you? You let me down. Did I not bring you snowpackers? No. I put you hers, you drops, didn't I? You did, you did. I prefer personally prefer snow caps because I I always think of your mum when I think of snow caps because she always used to bring them back whenever very rare did she come back to the UK when she was living in America, but I they always make me think of her, and I you know, I hope that's a okay thing to say. Because it's it's just one of the things that always makes me. Whenever I see snow caps like in a shop or anything, I always think of Natalie Gale. Like I always do. Like it just to her, it comes into my mind whenever I I see them, but but yeah, no, you didn't bring any back. I'm I'm disappointed in you. I'm not angry.
SPEAKER_02I'm disappointed. Or disappointed in the there is an American sweet shop in um in London, isn't there?
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, I'm sure there's many.
Drumsticks, Squashies, And Popping Candy Myths
SPEAKER_02No, I'm trying to think where it is. In Leicester Square. Is it the MM one that you're talking about? I can't remember, but there's a big one, I think, in Leicester Square, because we went in there and we were like, oh yeah, I remember seeing that one in Target or seeing that in uh Tarzan in Walmart or Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04When are you going to America next?
SPEAKER_02Uh not planned. We've not got anything planned. Nothing this year. Now yeah, um I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I'm putting in my request now.
SPEAKER_02Okay, okay. I'm not sure when we're gonna go back to America.
SPEAKER_04Snow caps for me.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh but I think we'll we'll go back to New Jersey. We'll go back.
SPEAKER_04Of course, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um so cola cubes, yes. Uh they were these hard-boiled sweets, which were basically fizzy coke flavour.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I I wouldn't vibe with that. I I'm not a massive fan of cola bottles either, to be honest. Even though I love Coca-Cola, I don't, I'm not a massive fan of the derivatives. I don't even really like the cola lollies that like the chubby chubs that you can get. Not a fan of them either.
SPEAKER_02Um, toffee bonbons?
SPEAKER_04I know of bonbons, and I know they're a bit chewy in the middle. I just it's never occurred to me that they would be toffee bonbons, but.
SPEAKER_02Well, we used to get flavoured toffee. I remember like assorted toffee, there'd be like mint toffee, dark toffee, um, just bog standard toffee, all these different flavors. I mean, again, in the sweet shop, you'd have these jars with all these little flavoured toffees as well.
SPEAKER_04I wish I was a toffee fan, but I just I just I just don't do licorice all sorts. Oh I am a chocolate person, I think. I think this is why I'm not that great with sweets, but yeah, toffee for me is just so meh. I I just uh there's a there's a really famous like toffee shop in all centre parks across the world, I think, have this toffee shop. And everyone always goes in there buy toffee. I just I'm just not I just don't vibe with it. I'm sorry, I just don't.
SPEAKER_02No. Oh.
SPEAKER_04I know.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, I used to love love toffee bonbons, but then I put some the ones that your mum and Rob kind of mentioned as well with sherbet pips.
Pacers, Caramac, And The Mint Debate
SPEAKER_04I remember sherbet dips, I think like dip dab. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02Dip dabs. Licorice with the dip in your yeah, and you'd lick the stick first, because the stick had something on it as well.
SPEAKER_04And then you dipped it in the sherbet.
SPEAKER_02We used to have a like double dab. Sour again.
SPEAKER_04Double dabs.
SPEAKER_02Double dabs, double dabs as well. Double dabs.
SPEAKER_04I I think again, I think this might be because I don't enjoy sour. I don't enjoy toffee or sour. Um, this is a rubbish episode for me because I'm like, oh, I don't like it.
SPEAKER_02Well, come on, come on to chocolate. Come on to chocolate.
SPEAKER_04We'll come on to chocolate, but yeah, I I just do not vibe with sour things.
SPEAKER_02I love sour, tan plastics, all of that. Oh, love it. I love it sour thing.
SPEAKER_04I was thinking of drumsticks. I know you've got that on there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we've got drumsticks later on. Yeah. Classic.
SPEAKER_04I like a drumstick.
SPEAKER_02I've already mentioned the drum rainbow drops.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, rainbow drops.
SPEAKER_02Beer bottles. Now I love them. So you know, like little cola bowls. Yeah. We said they have bigger ones.
SPEAKER_04What did they what do they taste like?
SPEAKER_02Shandy.
SPEAKER_04Oh, shandy.
SPEAKER_02They tasted like shandy.
SPEAKER_04Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So you they the beer bottles were bigger versions of the Coke bottles, but little they were like little pint glasses. Even with the head. Great.
SPEAKER_04Were they like foamy heads?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Oh.
SPEAKER_04Very cool.
SPEAKER_02I suppose they can't promote that now because no, and that's why we'll come on to things like chocolate cigarettes in a minute. Um yeah. Yeah. So of course, these are the ones that I didn't like were chocolate mice.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. I like chocolate, but chocolate mice are made out of that white. Oh, that fake chocolate.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, mocklet.
SPEAKER_04Mocklet, yeah. I'm not a Mitchell likes chocolate mice, but I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan.
SPEAKER_02Um, drumsticks. Now you can still get drumsticks, but not on the stick. Unless you go, can you get me in those retro boxes you were on about?
Cadbury Devotion And Cream Egg Techniques
SPEAKER_04I think so. I think they are on the sticks in the retro boxes, but I do like the evolution of those because you've got the drumstick squishies nowadays.
SPEAKER_02I love a packet of drumstick squishies.
SPEAKER_04They're good. Yeah. They are good. Yeah. I'm a huge fan.
SPEAKER_02I think they've got MSG in them because once I start, I can't stop.
SPEAKER_04Whenever I burn myself, as in as in a drumstick. I'm a drumstick because it's white and red. So whenever I think of whenever I burn myself, because my skin is so pale, I've got I'm red up here and white and thing. I think, oh, I'm a drumstick. I always think that to myself. I don't think I've ever said it out loud before, but I like in my head that's what I'm imagining when I look at my burnt skin, I'm like, I'm a drumstick. Anyway, um random tit bit there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Space saucers, which was uh the flying saucers, we've kind of mentioned them. Um we used to have a thing called space dust as well. And there'd be like a little packet. And no, no, it was you put it in your mouth, it would tingle on your tongue.
SPEAKER_04Oh, like popping can.
SPEAKER_02Popping can, yeah, like that. But there was a there was actually, and again, uh we we are going to be doing an episode on Mandela effects because after I did this episode, I was like, and then I realised that this was a Mandela effect. I thought, oh, we'll do an episode on Mandela effects. We've got that coming up as well. So um, because Space Dust, there was a rumour that Space Dust got banned because it was too close to the term angel dust.
SPEAKER_04Is angel dust a drug?
SPEAKER_02And angel dust was a slang term for PCP.
SPEAKER_04What's PCP?
SPEAKER_02Is a drug. Oh, yeah, it's a drug. It's a drug that makes you go and yeah, you take Why would you want to take that? Oh, people you yeah, in the 80s PCP was a thing. Rage out just give people incredible strength.
SPEAKER_04Oh, like like steroids.
SPEAKER_02It's like enhanced cocaine. Oh, it's not a good thing. Or it's like cocaine on cocaine.
SPEAKER_04So you would only take that if you were about to do physical labour, is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, or robber bank. Or rubber bank. Rob a bank. Um but yeah, because they because it was space dust was too close to the term agil dust, which was the slang term for PCP, there was a rumour that they banned it, but they never actually did. That was a Mandela effect.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay.
Curly Wurly Logistics And Flake Chaos
SPEAKER_02So there you go. Oh, cool. Um, Chewets.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I there's Chewets these days. I actually had some for Christmas, raspberry flavoured ones.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you used to get mint flavoured chewets.
SPEAKER_04Oh, mint. Yeah, mint doesn't not sound nice.
SPEAKER_02Oh god my god, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Nah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownNah.
SPEAKER_04Fruit, fruit all the way.
SPEAKER_02This saddens me.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02This saddens me because I I I I think back to these sweets and I miss them fondly.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Pacers.
SPEAKER_04I don't know what a pacer is.
SPEAKER_02Google it. Google a pacer.
SPEAKER_04What's it what's the type of P-A-C-E-R.
SPEAKER_02Have a have a little have a little Google.
SPEAKER_04What does it look like? Oh, they kind of look like humbugs, but they were lovely. What flavour were they? Mint. Oh, peppermint.
SPEAKER_02Mint.
SPEAKER_04Were they chewy or hard or?
SPEAKER_02They were chewy.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_04Pacers. What oh, peppermint is my favourite as well. I hate spearmint. Well no, I hate is a strong.
SPEAKER_02Like even the chewing gum we used to get with like um juicy fruit.
SPEAKER_04They're very funky colours. I like the like the green and white situation going on.
SPEAKER_02Pacers were amazing.
SPEAKER_04I've never seen these before in my life, but the all the pictures look very dated.
SPEAKER_02They oh they are. They're incredibly dated.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Uh the caramak is still a thing, isn't it?
Chomp, Turkish Delight Rage, And Bounty Truce
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's like the yellow chocolate.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's like caramel.
SPEAKER_04Caramac.
SPEAKER_02Caramac. Yeah. Never never really liked it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, Mitchell enjoys caramak. Yeah, not not for me. Um, a bit too sweet for my my personal taste.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm not, yeah, a bit too much for me as well.
SPEAKER_04Yes, a Nestlé caramak. You can still get you can still get it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, do we move on to chocolate?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Chocolate. Move on to chocolate.
SPEAKER_02So dairy milk was around in the 80s. 100%.
SPEAKER_04Dairy milk is my go-to. Um I really love cadbries, and I don't care that I'm a Cadbury snob. I've been to Cadbury World twice in my life now as well.
SPEAKER_02And it's in Bourneville, isn't it?
SPEAKER_04A good time was had by all. Yes. It is Bourneville, yeah. We've Birmingham.
SPEAKER_02So you went once with us, didn't you?
SPEAKER_04I've been once with you and I've been once as an adult. I got to hug Freddo. So who's laughing now? There's a picture of me hugging Fredo. And it's I don't normally like hugging characters because I don't know. I I think it's probably just a me thing, but the the idea that I can't see their face really puts me on edge. Like I need to know who I'm hugging, who I'm who I'm who I'm giving my physical.
SPEAKER_02Well, there's a thing about the the bronies at Comic-Con.
SPEAKER_04Oh, bronze.
SPEAKER_02The My Little Pony. Yeah, there's a whole thing about them.
Topics, Marathons, And Opal Fruits To Starburst
SPEAKER_04I would just rather not, but I was it was forced upon me. Oh, I'm really upset with you, by the way. Oh, what have I done now?
SPEAKER_02I just mentioned Comic-Con. Because you're not available.
SPEAKER_04Oh no, I'm not a mum.
SPEAKER_02I'm not available. So I might be going with your mum.
unknownOh no.
SPEAKER_02So I did try and persuade her. No, she's she gonna dress up as you're you're not my second choice. I didn't ask Hannah first, I promise.
SPEAKER_04What's she gonna dress up as?
SPEAKER_02Oh no, because it's not, it's a games convention. So it's not Comic-Con, it's a games convention.
SPEAKER_04Because no one dressing up though. There will be people dressing up. You might be out of place if you don't dress up.
5-4-3-2-1 Bars And Mint Toffos
SPEAKER_02There will be people dressing up. So it's in it's in the NEC in Birmingham in May. When you go when you're going to that wedding. Yeah. But it's a three-day event, and it's all different games, board games like DD, all that kind of massive game convention. We'll see what games there are. Because when we went to Jersey last time, there was a game shop there. Uh, and there was all these different games that from America that I've never heard of. And they were like, Oh, that's amazing. So um Ben was talking to it, because Ben's got a stall there for his little mini business. Yes. Uh so he is he's gonna be there and he was telling me about it. So I said, Well, I'm I'm gonna go. Yeah. I'm gonna go. Hopefully three days. And they've got like DD games where you can sit and watch and take part, like one-shots and stuff.
SPEAKER_04So you should do that. You should do that.
SPEAKER_02I'm going to do that. Anyway, going back to sweet ears. Chocolates. Chocolates. Cabries cream egg was a thing in the 80s, but they were bigger.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I love a cream egg. But if they were any bigger, I think they'd be too sickly now.
SPEAKER_02How do you eat a cream egg? I know this is uh a controversial topic. Do you do you bite the top off and get your tongue in there and lick all the gooe goodness out of the room?
SPEAKER_04I was gonna say I'm not really sure how to put this in an eloquent way, but yeah. Like I mun I I take that f the top comes off. Yeah. And then I go I give it a good old lick out, and then uh and then um and then I eat the rest of the chocolate. Do you? Sometimes I quite because I quite like the chocolate with the sweetness in the middle.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I'll bite the top off, I'll lick as much as I can out, and then I'll just like the rest of the egg.
SPEAKER_02See, now I don't like Cadbury's cream eggs. What? I'm not a fan because it's too they are very sickly.
Jelly Tots And Realising It’s A Two-Parter
SPEAKER_04That's why I can't imagine them being any bigger than they are. I like mini, uh like you can get a packet of them, the mini uh cream eggs. They're nice because they're very palatable.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I could probably eat that because it's just a mini, a small amount of tiny, yeah. Taste. A little taste, can you imagine if an Easter egg the size of a cream egg was filled with that gooey scent in it?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that would be too much. I'd have to eat that shit with a spoon over several evenings.
SPEAKER_02Um you'd end up with the diabetes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you would end up with the diabetes, yeah.
SPEAKER_02The diabeticus. I'll have to send you a video later. If you know the stoner guy on TikTok, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I know.
Candy Whistles And Chocolate Cigarettes
SPEAKER_02If you're an art following me, is you know that guy? No. Oh, it's brilliant. He's talking about with the um the cannabis gummies in America. Right. And this one guy goes on that, he like reacts to other people taking the cannabis gummies and helps them through it. So he's saying I like helps them through it like astronauts or space cadets, is what he calls them. And this one guy says, uh, he says, Why do they make the gummies so strong? Why can't you make them one THC instead of ten THCs? And then I could have like up to ten, and this stoner guy goes, Well, if they did that for me, I'd have the diabetes. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say I like man ten hippie calories.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's so funny, so funny. Ten mega is really not that much.
SPEAKER_02No, no.
SPEAKER_04It's really not.
SPEAKER_02So the query curly whirlies.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean now. They are still a thing. I find curly whirlies incredibly difficult to eat without getting chocolate. Like the chocolate breaks off the do you know what I used to love doing with curly whirlies?
SPEAKER_02Go on. Putting them in the fridge.
SPEAKER_04See, that is just that is serial killer behaviour because that is just how do you eat it?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, baby.
SPEAKER_04That's rock.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, boy. So it wouldn't, because the chocolate would flake off.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, nah. I like them, but they're just too awkwardy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I find the same thing with a flake, I'm sure it's coming up.
SPEAKER_00Only the crumbliest, flaky as chocolate. Tis like chocolate, never tasted before.
SPEAKER_04The next one.
SPEAKER_00The chomp bar.
SPEAKER_04I've only ever seen us in Cabri selection boxes. I don't know if you're a big one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we used to get bigger ones. Used to get bigger ones, bigger chom bars.
SPEAKER_04They're fine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Again, smaller version of a curly whirling, very similar to a curly whirling.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I I enjoy them more than a curly whirling. They're easier to eat. But yeah, not something I choose, but I'd happily eat.
SPEAKER_02Now the next one can get in the frickin' bin. I know. Whoever invented fries Turkish Delight or fries is of fries is wrong.
SPEAKER_04I don't understand why you would want to eat soap. I know. I just cannot fathom that. It's so rank. I I cannot, I cannot. I I hate that more than anything else we've talked about on this podcast. I will, I will, I will eat a sour sweet over Turkish.
SPEAKER_02I will I will not go near Turkish Delight. No. I've had real Turkish Delight. Real Turkish Delight from Turkey is nice.
SPEAKER_04What is it?
SPEAKER_02But this stuff, I do not know what it is.
SPEAKER_04I don't know if you've got it in here, but um those what they're called, those marzipan fruits.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, no, I didn't write about them, but they're rancid.
Wrapping The 80s And What’s Next
SPEAKER_04They are on the same level as Turkish Delight to me. They're so rancid. Oh, I get in the bin.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Get in the bin.
SPEAKER_02So we'll move on from Turkish Delight.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, not a fan.
SPEAKER_02Bounties.
SPEAKER_04I think they're fine if you like coconut.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I like a coconut bounty.
SPEAKER_04I would happily give my bounty to you. Uh it's not something that I like.
SPEAKER_02I like a bounty.
SPEAKER_04But I can see why people would like it. I'm not, I'm not against this one. It's just more like coconut's not my thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But then, of course, we've got the the topic bar. You ever had a topic?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_02What's topic? Topic was like, yeah, it's like a nougar where like chocolate with nougat. Like it's kind of it's almost it's not like Marzi Pan. It's nougar's different. Old Mars bars. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That similar. They're similar, aren't they? Because they're hazernut and caramel.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So basically it's Cadbury's.
SPEAKER_02Is it is I think Topic was Nestle.
SPEAKER_04Oh, Nestle.
SPEAKER_02Nestle. Because then you've got the classics that are still around, which which we had, which was like flakes.
SPEAKER_04It looks like a Mars bar. I'm not gonna lie to you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm looking at the pictures now. Okay. Topic looks like a Mars bar.
SPEAKER_02And then we had uh it is Nestle, I think. Marathons.
SPEAKER_04Aren't marathons the new Snickers? Yes.
SPEAKER_02They were called marathons back then. Yeah. Yeah. Uh moving away from chocolate slightly, we also got opal fruits. Do you know what opal fruits are now?
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah. Are opal fruits similar to pear drops?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_04Then no.
SPEAKER_02You can still get opal fruits. Can you? But they're not called opal fruits anymore. They're called Starburst.
SPEAKER_04Ah.
SPEAKER_02So when I was a kid, they were called Opal Fruits.
SPEAKER_04Ah, Starburst is a such a much better name than opal fruits.
SPEAKER_02Don't know why, but in it was in 1998 they announced I Googled that when it was they changed the name. 1998, they changed the opening. In my time. In my time.
SPEAKER_04No wonder I've never heard of them. Yes, Starburst. Yeah. I oh I don't know whether I need to should I confess this? Go on. Oh, confess this. You know you used to give me lunch money at school. Well, uh, where I went to school, and I I'm not going to say it just to hide a little bit of my lost here a little bit, but um, there was a leisure centre attached to my school that you could walk into at lunch if you wanted to.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Still there.
SPEAKER_04But the only reason anyone ever went in there was because one, you could get a hot chocolate in there from a machine. Two, there was a vending machine. And I always used to buy star first from the channel.
SPEAKER_02Did you really? Yeah, I did.
SPEAKER_04I don't think I ever told you that. Well. Yeah, start first.
SPEAKER_02Confession time.
SPEAKER_04Confession time. Yeah. And then you were like the good kid, like, because i I didn't always like all of the flavours, so I knew someone that like really enjoyed the green ones and the orange ones, so I always used to give them out and keep all the strawberry ones to myself. Confession time.
SPEAKER_02So it chewets were very similar to kind of opal fruits, greens, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Same thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, same sort of thing. And then there was a chocolate bar that we used to have called 54321.
SPEAKER_04Was it anything to do with chocolate?
SPEAKER_0254321. 54321.
SPEAKER_04Oh. It came with its own theme gene.
SPEAKER_02It did. It was a chocolate bar. Uh, and it had five distinct flavours, including milk, chocolate, caramel, crispies, wafer, and fondant.
SPEAKER_04Yum.
SPEAKER_02It didn't last past 89.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02Discontinued.
SPEAKER_04Bowls.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, then these were the ones I used to love, the mint toffos. Stink called Toffos.
SPEAKER_04So they anything to do with Toffee Fi?
SPEAKER_02So, no. No, no, no, no. These were these were in a packet with little small round toffies. Okay. And you could get mint ones, you get traditional toffee, or you could get fruit ones. Didn't like the fruit ones, didn't like traditional, but the mint toffies, oh my lord. Oh my lord. Oh my lord. Love the mint toffee. So there you go. Jelly tots?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know jelly tots. Um, I know them from Christmas, getting them in a tube because I love fruit pastels, and jelly tots are basically small small small fruit pastels.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And we do have time.
SPEAKER_02Uh 30 minutes, 30 minutes. We're still in the 80s.
SPEAKER_04We are still in the 80s.
SPEAKER_02This might be a two-parter as well, haven't we? Oh god. It might be. Should we do the 80s and finish on the 80s? And then we'll do the others on the in the next episode.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we've mentioned uh Palmer Violets.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02We've mentioned those.
SPEAKER_04Candy necklaces as well.
SPEAKER_02Candy necklaces, we've mentioned. We've mentioned wam bars. Dib dabs, we've mentioned. Uh candy whistles. Candy whistles. So these were like hard sugar sugar candy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right? But they were a whistle.
SPEAKER_04So you could You could blow through them and eat them.
SPEAKER_02You could blow through in them and eat them.
SPEAKER_04Wow, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Damn.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Did it have a ball in it? You know when you blow it in like there's a ball in it and you go.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. It didn't have a ball in it, but because of the way the it was actually shaped for like a whistle.
SPEAKER_04Damn.
SPEAKER_02So you had to you had to be quite clever with it to do it.
SPEAKER_04That is really cool.
SPEAKER_02Candy whistles. Candy whistles. That was great fun, they were. Um I don't think you can get them anymore.
SPEAKER_04No. I don't, I don't, I've never seen them.
SPEAKER_02But the other thing that we used to have in the 80s. It was acceptable in the eighties. That wouldn't be acceptable now. Because we could buy chocolate cigarettes.
SPEAKER_04Now, I have a really weird, vivid memory of being really young at like one of those Haven holiday parks with my dad. And I do recall having they were candy cigarettes. I don't I I think they had like a really loose paper round them, and they were they there was just like a chunk of cylindrical chocolate in them.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04They didn't taste very nice, but I uh for some reason I had them and I used to eat them just as a as a roll of paper. And I remember candy cigarettes used to come in these tiny little boxes, almost like the raisin boxes. And the ones that I only remember had Spider-Man on them. Well the ones that- Isn't that a weird thing to think?
SPEAKER_02The The ones that we had when I was a kid, they were packaged like real cigarettes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04They were like Marlborough or Yeah, see, I think we had them. I definitely had them as a kid, but they weren't packaged as cigarettes, they were more in the raisin boxes. Do you know what I mean? Like the little tiny cigar.
SPEAKER_02Well, we did have candy cigarettes as well. We had candy sort of like uh the white candy style, but we actually had chocolate ones and they would have come in the paper around them as well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's what I meant earlier. Like um like chocolate. They had like uh edible paper around them. Yeah, the paper never really seemed edible.
SPEAKER_02Oh no, but hang on a minute. If I remember rightly, I think when I was really young, the paper was edible, but then as I grew up, the paper wasn't edible or This is exactly what I mean.
SPEAKER_04This is exactly what I remember. The Spider-Man was you'd get a tattoo in them. Yes. You'd get a tattoo that you like a fake tattoo that you could put on.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, but as for paper cigarettes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, have a look, have a look at chocolate 80s chocolate cigarettes. Pull up a picture of those. You could probably put some of these pictures on the uh video as well.
SPEAKER_04Uh you say that, but that's yeah. See, they actually look, yeah. See, you've got the actual butt and the white bit. I don't remember there being a butt at all. They were just white.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's what I remember.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's not what we had.
SPEAKER_02Actual proper, proper cigarettes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they they look like a pack of cards almost as well. Um paper cigarettes, if I put in um nouties, let's see if there's slightly different. Because I'm sure. Oh no, they're just coming up the same ones that you had.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't well you can't get them anymore. They would have they would have been banned.
SPEAKER_04I I am almost 90% sure that they didn't have the butt section on them. They were just white. I I am that's all I remember. And they were and they were they were just a cylindrical bit of chocolate. The chocolate wasn't that nice, and the paper wasn't edible.
SPEAKER_01Whistle lollies.
SPEAKER_04Oh, damn.
SPEAKER_01There you go. That's what a whistle lolly looks like.
SPEAKER_04They look cool. Yeah, I definitely didn't have the butts on them.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02So my butt is getting sore. Yes. I'm just having a little look through some of uh your mum and Rob's just to make sure I've kind of covered all of theirs. Oh key dokes. Yeah, and it looks like we have, so I think we're kind of there with the with the with the 80s. Although, oh your mum, your mum has put jelly teddies were four for one P, which was a bargain if you had 10p to spend, is what she wrote to me. Jelly teddies.
SPEAKER_04Jelly teddies. So the only jelly teddies I can think of are the Haribo bears.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, we'll come on to those in the in the 90s.
SPEAKER_04That's that's more my area of expertise. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Shall we leave it there? Uh and just having a little look. So just thing through. Yeah, because if we go into the next episode, which will be the nineties, the nineties, and we'll we'll well through the nineties and uh the two thousands and finish off with some Polish sweets.
SPEAKER_04Yes, nice.
SPEAKER_02Polish sweets.
SPEAKER_04Well, if you enjoyed this very special episode brought to you by bonus dad, bonus daughter, which is me, Hannah, father over there.
SPEAKER_02Did you forget my name?
SPEAKER_04No, I didn't.
SPEAKER_02There was a bit of a pause there, Hannah.
SPEAKER_04I just um I don't know, I've been calling you dad more than Davy, and it feels weird saying Davy now. Do you know what I mean? Like it feels a bit weird. Yeah, although I tend to call you father in this context.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04Bonus father, bonus. Why do why didn't we do bonus father, bonus talk?
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SPEAKER_04That's true.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's only because I think it's only because I call my dad father.
SPEAKER_04B D, yeah. I think that's where I've got it from.
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