Backstage To Breaks: A Life Update

What happens when a sold-out show has tech issues and still becomes one of your favourite nights? We open up about the final Mammal Not Fish gig, the moment our in-ears died mid-medley, and how a quick pivot, a well-timed bridge, and a sexy jazzy sax improv turned near-disaster into electricity. Then we share the bittersweet call to end the band’s live chapter where it began, and why that doesn’t mean the music is over—unreleased tracks and remote sessions may yet see the light.

Away from the stage, we shift into making: MnF Productions is live, and Davey is deep into Tales from the Mammal Frequency, a one-man audio drama series inspired by Twilight Zone and Black Mirror. Writing, performance, sound design—the works. It’s a new creative lane built on storytelling, mood, and late-night listening, and we talk through how it will roll out.

Life outside the studio got a moment too. Hannah’s Tenerife trip brought quiet pools, big slides, and a sky tour where Saturn’s rings and the Andromeda Galaxy felt almost close. Health-wise, colonoscopy results came back clear—relief, yes, and still no neat answer. Family updates include a birthday and a remarkably quick recovery from knee surgery. And then the big curveball: Ancestry DNA. Years of assuming Irish roots gave way to a very English profile with a Viking tint, plus a trait report that nailed hitchhiker’s thumbs and missed on dairy. We get honest about what data can tell you, what it can’t, and how identity lives between genetics and everyday life.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome Back And Episode Setup
• 1:00 Why We Took A Break
• 3:20 The Gig Build-Up And Rehearsals
• 6:30 Show Night: Voices, Pranks, And Lore
• 10:30 Technical Chaos And On-Stage Recovery
• 15:40 The Last Mammal Not Fish Gig
• 19:10 MF Productions And New Audio Drama
• 23:30 Tenerife Trip And Star-Gazing
• 27:40 Health Check: Results And Real Talk
• 30:00 Alton Towers, Coasters, And Comparisons
• 36:00 Family Updates And A New Knee
• 39:00 Ancestry Reveal: DNA And Traits

Transcript

Welcome Back And Episode Setup

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad.

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Bonus Daughter, a special father-daughter podcast with me, Hannah.

SPEAKER_03 0:05

And me, Davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view. And influences throughout the decades. Or you could choose one by contacting us via email, Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok. Links in bio. Hello and welcome to a very special podcast episode. Today we are going to do a life update because we have not recorded a single podcast episode since The 3rd of August. The 3rd of August, sorry. I I I yeah, I It was that long ago.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

It's so long ago that I've forgotten how to talk and look at a script at the same time. Script. Uh bullet points. Actually, there's only ten bullet points?

SPEAKER_03 0:50

There is. There is.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

With and there's probably a maximum of 20 words on this page.

Why We Took A Break

SPEAKER_03 0:55

So this is gonna be this is gonna be a bit of a weird episode as well, because we're actually recording this one first. But this is gonna be the second one released after we've had our little break because next week is or this week.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

This this week is Halloween. It's Halloween.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

Spooky season.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Spooky season.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

So the Halloween episode which we're gonna record after this one will actually be out before this episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Movie magic, baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

There you go. Movie magic. How's that?

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Um so yeah, so we are going to cover a life update and then an ancestry update. Yes. Because um, for my birthday, which yeah, no one knows about because that was on the 17th of August. So I I grew grew another year older. I I obtained another year older.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

You got closer to 30.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

I uh yeah, I was trying to avoid that. I am now the tender age of 20. 29.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

You're pushing, you're knocking on 30's door.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

You're like hello, 30. Let me in, let me in, let me in. Yeah, so I'm 29. 29? And yeah, I got an ancestry kit for my birthday. So we will we will leave that one to the end.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

We will, we will. Who bought you that, Hannah? Oh, you did. I did. Sorry, I shouldn't mention that. Yeah, I bought you that.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

So we're gonna have a yeah, as Hannah said, this is gonna be a a whole episode about life update because we've done quite a bit, haven't we?

SPEAKER_00 2:13

I feel like you have.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

I've just been chilling. Yeah. Waiting for you actually. Well, the reason why we hadn't recorded for so long was because Sundays where when we record on Sundays, they got a little bit packed over the over the summer period with other stuff going on.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

Yeah, so so I had a holiday which we'd actually anticipated for. Yeah, we'd anticipated that one. We got that one locked and in. Yeah and then a wedding turned up, which which I did know about, but for some reason didn't really allocate that time for, so a very important wedding in uh in the family came up. All weddings are important, huh? Oh yes, but Yes. This this was an immediate family member, I feel, so yeah. Um and then um you had gigs, and you've had things going on. You're going to Alton Towers without me. Absolute sacrilege, by the way. And yeah, you've just you've been cancelling on me a lot, actually. I had to it's you.

SPEAKER_03 3:08

It was me because because the Sundays we had uh so the band, because obviously we had we had the gig as well on the side.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Oh, that was it, yeah. The rehearsals. That's why you kept cancelling.

The Gig Build-Up And Rehearsals

SPEAKER_03 3:17

The only day that we couldn't we we could all get together was on the Sunday, because a normal rehearsal session is three hours, but we did six hour sessions because because we needed Pierre, and it wouldn't be unfair for Pierre to travel all the way from London for three hours to then travel back, so we did six hour sessions.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

So what you're telling me is it's Pierre's fault.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

It's Pierre's fault, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

But for the loving kindness, yes, for for the yeah, I get you.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

But yeah, we had the uh we had our gig on the 3rd of October, which you were at.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

I was.

SPEAKER_03 3:45

You were there.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

I was.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

In fact, not only were you there, you kicked the whole thing off.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

I I did.

SPEAKER_03 3:51

You did.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

A pre-recorded kicked everything off.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

Yes, you did a pre-record where it was like uh your voice coming over the radio.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

It I was in the news news presenter, would you say? News presenter voice. Yeah. Which is not too dissimilar to this podcast. No.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

I think I'm a little bit more casual on this podcast, but I think you started off because you said, ladies and gentlemen, here is the news. Oh yes. And then it was good fun. Yeah. I enjoyed that. But what we like because me and Benji put that together. We. So me and Benji uh we we put the the start together.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Sorry, I'm feeling very French today. I've I've I've dropped two French phrases.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

We.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

I mean we it's very poison.

SPEAKER_03 4:27

Poisson. Oh I I know. Well we'll we'll say about that. Sorry. Uh so yeah, me and Benji put it all together. And did you hear the uh the bit that Joe's voice, we put Joe's voice in there as well? So we have a confession to make.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Not from memory.

SPEAKER_03 4:41

No. So we have as a band, we have a little bit of a confession to make. Uh, I don't think that uh Darren Edi or uh would have actually heard this, would realise this. Sorry, I'm I'm messing my words up.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

I don't know who Darren Edi is.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

He was a footballer for Norr City.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

So when we recorded our one of our EPs, right, we were at the studio and there's a thing on in Norfolk called Canary Call.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

Right. And Joe, drum drummer Joe, he said that he was gonna ring Canary Call up and put on a stupid Norfolk accent.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

Right.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

Right. And he went down into the other room to do it, and we were like, he's not gonna get through, and we were listening to Canary Call. And then all of a sudden, Darren Edy, who's one of the radio presenter, said, and now we're going over to John from Docking. And we were like, Well, that's where we are.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Oh, because we were at Jack Studio. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:29

And then all of a sudden, we just heard Joe's voice come over the radio, and it went, Ha, hello Rob, hello Daryl. So we called him Daryl instead of Darren. Right. Like to get it right. It was so funny. But we actually got the excerpt of that black canary call and we took it, and it's actually in one of our songs, it's in Tear You Apart in underneath.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Yeah, and you did not know that. Yeah, and we actually put Level Upfish Law right here.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

Yeah, and we put it in the uh in the start of the show as well. So that voice, that that voice was Joe when we when we called up Canary Call for a laugh. Brilliant. But there's an even funnier story than that. So when we released Tear You Apart, and we went on BBC Radio Norfolk, and we were being interviewed about the single and it was how it was all gonna come out, and I sent them the wrong track. So Which one did you send them? I sent them Tear You Apart, but there's two versions because at the end of the song, it goes into that radio bit, and we did that as a bit of a laugh.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Right.

Show Night: Voices, Pranks, And Lore

SPEAKER_03 6:28

Hello Rob, hello Darrell, hey E Kit get caught on offside, did he? And that in bearing in mind, we were live on the radio, the song finished, and all of a sudden we all just heard hello Rob and we all just like shit. And I was like, turn it off, turn it off, turn it off to the radio presenter, and she did kind of stop it, but oh my god, that was just like yeah, we could have got into a lot of trouble for that. But that was yeah, bit a bit mammal lockfish lore there. Cool, but yeah, it was a sellout gig.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

It was a great gig.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

Did you enjoy it?

SPEAKER_00 6:58

I danced my little little socks off.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

Yeah, I thought I was gonna have a heart attack because uh I'm 50 running around a stage, and I was very energetic.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

You were very energetic. You put on a great show. You you and Pierre, particularly, very energetic. Um, even though you had technical problems, very funny interlude that Pierre did. Elevator music, well I'd call it elevator music, lift music. Yeah, that was very funny. So you combated that very professionally, I must say.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

So, what happened with the technical issues? Uh, do you actually know what happened? I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

Right, so we all wear in-ear monitors because the back-in track uh has the backing track on it, has the cues, and also the click track. Now, the reason we have a click track is for Joe, so Joe can keep in time, but also it's got cues in there so we know when to come in.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Uh now on the Can I just stop you right here? Because I feel like this might be a little bit technical for some listeners. Okay. Just in case they don't know how this works.

SPEAKER_03 7:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

And I feel I'm I'm listening and I'm like, I know what this means, but I just suddenly occurred to me that maybe not.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

Okay, you explain what cues and click tracks are.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Basically, so let's go right back to the start. In-air monitors, so um musicians tend to have something playing in their ears to let them know when to come in on the song because that you can't hear yourself on stage.

SPEAKER_03 8:12

What you hear on stage is not what you hear out in the crowd.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Yeah, yeah. Um and then what you what you hear on stage as well, you need to be able to hear yourself coming back. You can't just sing and then uh and then or or sing or play or anything. Exactly. Uh without without some sort of you know, backing. Because when when you uh when you rehearse, you're all together in a room and obviously you can just natively hear each other, but on stage it doesn't quite work that way. No, it doesn't. Um so um so you have something in your ear to not only hear yourself but also hear your whole band, but also artists also use like click tracks and things to make sure that they're in time. Yeah. Um cues to make sure they know what verse they're singing up next as well. Some people put lyrics on, like the first line of the verse. Yeah. Because it's so easy to forget when you've got a whole massive production show, regardless of whether you're Mammal Knot Fish in Waterfront Norwich or Ariana Grande on a stage, you know. It it is the same thing. Like you need, you know, there's there's lots of distractions, there's lots of things that go into show, and therefore you have this basically this track to ensure that you remember what to do, when to do, and and how quickly to do those things.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

Exactly that. So, and also what I hear in my inn is Layman Hannah out. Yeah, what I hear in my in ears is different to what Joe hears, and it's different to what Ben hears because my vocal is a lot higher in my ears, but Joe needs the click track really loud so he can that he can keep in time. Benji has more bass in his ears so he can hear he can hear the bass and the like. But what happened was the the first three songs that we did, we merged them into one. So it was one long click track. And the first song, fine, started off, but halfway through the first song, Joe lost his in-ear monitor mix, so he couldn't hear anything, anything at all.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

So all he could hear was just the things on stage.

Technical Chaos And On-Stage Recovery

SPEAKER_03 9:54

All he could hear was that was the bits on stage, which was not great. He could not hear a thing, but because of that, because of the cues as well, I realised that Joe had lost he'd lost track of where he was, and when I looked back, I was then concentrating so much on Joe, keeping him thinking shit, you know, keep you in time. So I missed being the drummer, yeah. I missed the cues in my ears. So when Tear You Apart started, I missed the verse. One, two, three, four, and then I was supposed to come in. I didn't hear that. Oh so I then realised the song had changed, and I was supposed to be singing, and we were halfway through the first verse, and I looked at Benji in absolute horror, and Benji's looking at me in horror, and we're like, we have really messed this up. So I then I went over to Benji, I said, Right, I'm gonna come in at the bridge, and I managed to turn my cues up so I could hear where it went bridge. One, two, three, four, and then I came in. And then because there is also a gap in bre in break my stride, where in that gap there's just backing track, but we had to turn the backing track off at that point because it all went wrong, right? And because then there was gonna be a pause, I then looked at Joe and was like, shit, there's a pause in this song. People are gonna think if we haven't got the backing that the song is ended. What are we gonna do? Um I'm communicating whilst singing with Joe, all of this on stage, and Joe went to me, we'll end the song at the pause. And then I looked at everybody and we were all looking at each other, working it all out, and it worked. Now I don't think many people noticed.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

No, I didn't notice.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

No one noticed we were having a mare.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

But it's I also oh is this revealing something? I don't know your songs that well. That's what I'm trying to say. Scandalous! Everyone was singing our songs, weren't you? Yeah, I mean, I was singing your songs, I know them, but I don't know them well enough to be like, huh, he started on the like I don't know them from a technical level of oh, he started on the bridge rather than the verse. Like I would never have yeah, it wouldn't have occurred to me. I would have thought, oh, they're just changing it up for the show if I'd thought, oh, I thought that was a verse.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

That's what a lot of people thought we did. Yeah. That's what but we didn't. We it then stuff, but it's okay. And then after that, we managed to get the in-ears working again, and the rest of the show was absolutely spot on and perfect.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Yes, it was awesome. And even though you know you made the audience aware of the technical hitch, you did it in a very comedic way. Yeah. It's like, ah, we're having a technical difficulty, and then Pierre was just like on the on the sacks. Very good.

SPEAKER_03 12:24

Welcome to Jazz Club.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Yeah, it was very jazzy, but you know, what else could he do? He can't fix the issue, so he's like, Oh, I'm just gonna play.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

He just played. But did you know as well that when when Pierre joined Jay and Phoebe on stage, that was improved.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

I do.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

That was improvised. You do, you told me.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

But yeah, what a champ.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

Probably um, he stole the show for me.

SPEAKER_03 12:44

He did, and that was so funny when Benji was going. We we did like a a a call and response with the audience. It was like you say mammal knot, or we say mammal knot, you say fish, like that. And then we put the uh microphone to Pierre, and what did Pierre say? Poisson.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

Very funny. It made me giggle. Yeah, you also covered Authority Zero, Summer Sickness.

SPEAKER_03 13:04

We did cover authority, and I didn't get that to you. Yeah, I pointed at you in the audience and said, My daughter's over there, and everyone looks.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Yes, everyone. Everyone looked, and yes, that was that was that.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

Yeah, that was that. Um but we also made an announcement that night as well, didn't we? You did. So it was very sad. And the announcement is that Mammal Not Fish is no more. That was our last gig. It was it we came full circle. The waterfront was where we played our first gig ten years ago, and it's where we played our last gig.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

I don't think this is the end.

SPEAKER_03 13:35

Well we'll see what happens. But it is because everyone's busy and just just the time and life gets in the way.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

Life gets in the way. I think I don't think it's the end.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

Well, I do we do have a load of tracks that we haven't released, and I have already called Benji.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

Post phalamus. That's when someone dies. Posthumus.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

Posthumous. Postumus. Yeah. So I have or I have already called Benji and said, look, we've got all these tracks that we never released. Shall we shall we do something with them? Like MIDI the instruments, and Pierre can do some sacks remotely and and the like and see see if we can release it. So um it might not be the last, it will be the last Mammal Not Fish gig, but it might not be the last you hear of Mammal Not Fish.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:19

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Oh but still.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

Yeah, because I've also started the MF production company as well.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Yes, you have.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Do you want to talk about that?

SPEAKER_03 14:27

Yeah, could so MF is Mammal Not Fish, of course. So I've now started a started a MF production company, and I've been doing some writing.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

I have. I've written I'm now up to ten. I've seen it.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

You said twelve to me yesterday.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

Yes, no, I've written another two. Yes, I did write another two. So I've written. I've written twelve, and they will be released. They're one man radio shows, and they're called, and the whole series is gonna be called Tales from the Mammal Frequency.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Lovely.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

It's very Black Mirror, it's very Twilight Zone, and they're all gonna be independent stories written, acted out on like like using the podcast equipment and then released, and we'll be putting sound effects on there and music to it all. And I mean it's gonna be a while before they're released because this is gonna be a lot of work. I'm gonna be I'm doing it all myself. So writing the stories, performing the stories, uh editing it, adding bits in. It's yeah. I might have to even record a few and then release them afterwards. So it'll probably it'll probably be months before it comes out.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

And now you've said it, you have to do it.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

I now have to do it.

The Last Mammal Not Fish Gig

SPEAKER_00 15:39

And you but you've already done me the uh uh Yeah, I need to work on it. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

Yeah, you've you've already started branding. You have already started our branding. Thank you. So MF Productions. Yes. Which I was thinking about as well, as as doing BDBD podcasts as part of MF MF Productions.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Put us under your umbrella.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:58

So what about you?

SPEAKER_03 16:00

I've been talking for ages.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

You have been talking.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

So what about you, Hannah? What have you have you done anything?

SPEAKER_00 16:05

I went to Tenerife.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

You did, you went on a swingers holiday, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00 16:08

There were no upside-down pineapples. We did not go on a swingers holiday. We had a lovely time, just us two. Um just us, it's weird that you're saying that. Oh, what did you do? Actually, can we just go back to the gig? What I found what I found funny about there's a particular song that you do, which is um uh Everyone but me.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

And it's funny I sing the lyrics. What the the um um self-drinket, you're ready for the weekend, everybody knows you're gonna be sleeping with everyone but me, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

And I'm singing that out loud to my dad singing that about someone that he wants to or wanted to sleep with, I guess, in your youth. Do you know how backwards that sounds? How many, like, how many daughters can say that they they've ever been in that situation? It was a real weird moment where I just I just like sat back on my heels and was like, yeah, I'm singing about my dad's love life to his face whilst he performs it to other people. Like it was a really like that I don't know, it just doesn't sit right. It's really funny. And then I was thinking, like, I wonder if like Kelly Osborne, for example, ever feels that like felt that way about Ozzy. And like I was trying to think of like other famous daughters, Ploma Faith, like being another one. I was like, I wonder, like, you know, how yeah, I I I just wondered how like they're singing their own father's songs back to them, and they're not always like the most kid-friendly thing to sing back to your parents, especially Black Sabbath songs, yeah, exactly, exactly. So but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Um But that's the thing, their songs, their songs.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

I know their songs, but it's just so funny to me standing there singing about your love life back to you.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Yeah, well, the funny the funny thing is is that particular song, as I as I announced that night, that there are two versions of that song. Yeah, yes. And the the original version, we we've never performed that live. We can't. It's it's bad. Yeah. It's bad, yes. Anyway, so you can't. Yes, so I went to Tenerife. Yeah, so we went on Swingers Holiday.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

All inclusive holiday was absolutely gorgeous, did nothing, um, which was good, laid by the pool for a while. Although we did go to Cyan Park, which was awesome. Water park there.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Um, Mitchell went on that bloody great water slide.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

Um that's the only thing I didn't do there, because uh not for me. But yeah, he got out of it, looked quite cool coming out of the end as well, like played it off quite cool, even though it terrified him. Did he get a wedgie? I don't didn't ask him actually, but I'm gonna assume yes.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

Yeah, because I when I watched the video of him coming down, that was my first thought. Was like, oh that looks like that's that's going to be.

MF Productions And New Audio Drama

SPEAKER_00 18:48

He has quite long swim shorts, so I don't know. Not 100% sure, but maybe. Again, wasn't wasn't discussed. And then um Mitchell and I had a um because it was just us two, um, we bought uh a game, a card game that we that we love called Cribbidge. Um we took that with us and um I won with four games in hand. Did you really? I absolutely smashed him at Cribbage. Yeah, it was brilliant. Um so that happened. Um we saw some surfers, some windsurfers as well. Apparently it's quite a surfy little place we went to.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Beach is very black, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 19:22

Yeah, volcanic um volcanic island. There's lots of volcanoes on Tenerife. There is many, many volcanoes. And to top that off, we went to one of the top sort of edge of top of top of the map. Tenerife, the map, if you will. We were, I think it was a thousand feet above Ben Nevis. So if Ben Nevis was on Tenerife, we were a thousand feet above that, which is quite cool. And we saw Saturn. Yeah, very cool. We saw Saturn, we saw Andromeda Galaxy.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Nice. And uh we saw some stars, I took some pictures of stars, very cool, and yeah, just had a whale of a time.

SPEAKER_03 19:58

Whale of a time. Whale of a time. So you saw you saw the Andromeda Galaxy?

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

You saw Saturn? Did you see Jupiter?

SPEAKER_00 20:04

No, not wrong time of year for Jupiter.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Yes, saw some constellations as well, and they put them out, like, this is Virgo. Um I was like, oh okay, that doesn't look like a a sheep, but thanks. Yeah, none of them looked like that. One of them looked like a teapot. Again, didn't really see that one, but I think it's because we're British, they were just sort of laying into the British theme thing going on. But yeah, it was very cool. Didn't see my own star sign because apparently you have to go a few weeks before your birthday to get your star sign, it's after my birthday, so didn't see my star sign or Mitchell's, but um but we saw some that was fun.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

So you saw Saturn's rings?

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Saw Saturn and its rings, yes. Yes, yeah, very cool, very cool. Like when you look at it, you think that is just a picture that they've just put in front of the telescope. It's weird, isn't it? Like it just doesn't like can I can't conceive that in my brain that we're looking so far into the sky to see Saturn. Crazy.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

But in the in the in the galaxy and in the universe, it's not actually that far.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

I know, but it's so far. It's so far. So yeah, I went to Tenerife before Tenerife. I did have my colonoscopy results. I think we talked about the colonoscopy results.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

You said you were going, yeah, you you you discussed that you had had it. Had it, yeah. But you hadn't had your results.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Well, there's nothing to report because i they came back all positive and fine and normal, um, which is actually quite frustrating because still don't know what's wrong with me. What's wrong with her? Um so nothing, um, according to all results, but kind of one one nice tick that came from that was that I all my cancer markers were low, so don't have cancer, which is not something I was worried about, but it's like yay, something I don't have, which is fun. Um so yay, no cancer for me, no butt cancer for me.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

But there is something that you told me that you were proud of.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

My Boston Bell score. I've already told, I've already told.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Have you?

SPEAKER_00 21:52

Yeah, I mentioned about my Boston Bell score already, but basically I cleared myself out so well for the colonoscopy that I got an A star essentially. Um A star.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Well done. Well done.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

Arsehole star.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Um so yeah, I don't think I need to bleep asshole, right? No, you don't. I didn't I used in context.

SPEAKER_03 22:09

It's F's and C words.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

F's I've never said the C words.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

No, no, you haven't. No.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

Not well, not on podcasts, and very rarely in life.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Yeah, no, but the Fs you do quite a lot. I do drop F bombs on the box. You do you do drop them quite a lot. Yes. We have to duck them out.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

So I for some reason on my for some reason on my like bullet points, I put colonoscopy results and then I You wrote sad times Sad Times, but I assume that was because I was just feeling low from the positive result.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Or neutral result, I should say. Yes. Not positive or negative, neutral result. So yeah, got myself into a sad time.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Were you sad because I went to Alton Towers without you?

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Well, that also has upset me greatly.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Well, the reason why we went to Alton Towers was we weren't originally gonna go because we bought it as a present for Anthony and Hillary. So my brother and sister. Yeah. Uh because Hills, uh, as you know, as a lot of people in the podcast world knows as well, is that she is from America, she's from Florida, and she grew up in Rand Disney Park. So she's been to Disney Parks countless times. She'd never been to Alton Towers.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

That's crazy. Crazy.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

So we took her.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

So, well, I'd say we took her, we bought her and Anthe that, but then Hills rang us up and said, Well, do you want to come with us?

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Oh.

Tenerife Trip And Star-Gazing

SPEAKER_03 23:23

So that's why we we we went up to uh went up to Alton Towers and didn't take me. Um didn't take you. And we did actually say to Hills and Anthe when we got there, because of course it's Alton Towers, and of course, coming from Florida and Disney, we were like, Don't don't have highest high expectations here.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

Don't do you know this is the best we got. This is the best yeah, this is the best we've got. This is this this isn't Universal Until Universal comes.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Yeah, this is the best we've got.

SPEAKER_03 23:47

But the funny thing is, one of the first rides we went on was Rita. Yes, and I even said as we got onto Rita, I said, like the the rock and roll coaster in um in Disney is much faster than what Rita is. And we got my we got onto the ride.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

100% sure that's true.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

Exactly. We got onto the ride, and as we got off the ride, Hills turned to me and she went, That bloody well isn't. Yeah. She said that was much faster than rock and roller coaster.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

How fast is Rita? Is a hundred kilometres per hour. And um sorry for the taps. Rock and roller roller coaster at Disney World. 92. It's eight kilometres an hour faster. An hour faster, which is actually quite a considerable amount.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

Yeah. So yeah, Hillsbone got off. She put no, that was definitely faster than rock and roller coaster.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Damn. So yeah, yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:39

We were the only thing we didn't get to go on, um, which ended up was Smiler.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Oh, what a shame. That's one of the best ones there.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

Because I wasn't gonna go on it.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

No, I know you're not kidding.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Oh, I just do not like that ride.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

And also, and oh do you know what?

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Because it broke down while we were in the queue. And when they said it said, sorry, it's broken down, we're gonna have to you know close the ride down now. I was like, thank God for that. Because oh, I just do not like that ride at all. Just horrendous.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

It's a shame they didn't get get to go on it though.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Did you tell them like all the fun facts that I tell you when we went round?

SPEAKER_03 25:14

What the fact that someone lost their leg on Smile.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

No, that's not a fun fact. I very rarely share that fact about that coaster. It's it's because it's not the coaster's fault, and a lot of people blame the coaster and how it was made, and it wasn't the coaster's fault. Yeah, that's why I have so much faith in coaster compared to human.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

But we would talk, but Hills did say actually she would like to go to was it Plopsyland with you? So I think she wants to go with you, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Plopsiland is so good. Yeah, it's only got three coasters, but they're three cracking coasters. Yeah, it's so worth it.

SPEAKER_03 25:48

So what's there? What's that Pelopsyland?

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Three coasters.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

It just sounds like shit world.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

No, Plopsyland is definitely more geared towards younger children. They have a lot of things for young children. But there's three big rides, so you've got um Heidi the Ridey.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

I'm sorry, what?

SPEAKER_00 26:06

It's called Heidi the Ride. Heidi, I think, is a Belgian French cartoon for kids, but it's a wooden coaster and it's kind of geared towards that, so it's called Heidi the Ride, but we call we like to call it Heidi the Ridey.

SPEAKER_03 26:18

I'm sorry, have you never sorry, I'm I'm looking at you. This is where I feel like I've failed again as a father.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Oh, is Heidi not a French German?

SPEAKER_03 26:25

Hi Heidi is like from the Swiss Alps and she was Yeah, that's that's what the coaster's geared on. Yeah. You've never seen Heidi?

SPEAKER_00 26:32

No.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

Is it Do do do do do do do do? I can't remember the theme too.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Is it is it a British cartoon then?

SPEAKER_03 26:37

No, it's Swiss.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Oh, it's a Swiss cartoon.

SPEAKER_03 26:40

Oh, it's not cartoon, it's live. It's live action.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

No, these were like cartoon people.

SPEAKER_03 26:44

Are you sure there's not like a there might be a cartoon spin-off, but Heidi, Height and was it Peter the Goat Boy?

SPEAKER_00 26:51

Yeah, there was quite a lot of goats and sheep on it as well. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

How old is this? Oh, it was done like 60s, 70s.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Oh, okay, right. So not not in my sphere then.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

We watched it, we watched it when we were growing up.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Okay, well, that's you'll love that then. Um that's Heidi the Ridey. And then there's and then there's one called House of Something.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

Basically, the house in New Orleans.

Health Check: Results And Real Talk

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Not quite that, but that's that's a really cool coaster. Has lots of inversions. And then the main attraction of Plopsaland is Rider Happiness, which is made by Tomorrowland, which is um it's a multi-dimensional coaster, which means that it goes upside down, normal coaster tracks and everything. It's got a couple of launches on it, but the actual cars themselves spin, but quite slowly, so it's not like 1974. Uh, there's definitely a cartoon spin-off, like modern day cartoon spin-off for sure.

SPEAKER_03 27:47

Yeah, Heidi.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

That's not that's not what it looked like at all. They must yeah, they must have a cartoon version of it now. Oh hang on.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

Is that it?

SPEAKER_00 27:57

No.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

No, it's it's modern, modern cartoon.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Um but anyway, yeah. Um so yeah, we can take it to Plops of Land.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

There you go. Yeah, there is it is Heidi Girl of the Alps. Yep. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Would I lie to you?

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Would a lie to you, baby?

SPEAKER_00 28:14

Would a lie. Oh yeah. Because I remember because they were playing the cartoon in the queue line.

SPEAKER_03 28:19

Ah, right, okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

Yeah, so it's got three main crosses, and then the rest is just awesome theming. Even the kids' section, it's just worth going in just to look at what they've done with the place. Nice cool.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Nice, so cool. Uh what else we had? We had so your mum had a birthday.

SPEAKER_00 28:36

She did, yes. Your mum had.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

She turned 42.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

32.

SPEAKER_03 28:42

But also, your poor mum has just gone into hospital or just come out of hospital for a knee operation.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

I feel like you you could say poor mum, but she's dealing with it very well. She's recovering very well. I think we should actually word this in a positive light. Mum has a new knee.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Yes, she does indeed. She does indeed.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Don't be negative, be positive.

SPEAKER_03 29:00

She was I mean, to be fair, she wasn't she wasn't in there that long. She went in there only an hour and a half and then she came out.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Yeah. She stayed the night in hospital for fun. Oh. Do we tell people that? I know what you want to say.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

She might not be like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

No. That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

We went and visited her after her operation. Um, and um And she was still on the drugs. Yeah. Um but we won't, we won't go into it. No, but we're gonna. Um but it was um It was funny. We did f we did record it actually. But well, we actually you recorded it. I said don't record her, she won't like it. But she did seem up for the recording at the time.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Um but we we we won't share or anything about it.

SPEAKER_03 29:38

It was funny, bless her heart. But yeah, she's uh so she had that done last Friday, and she's already up and about she's up in Morcam today.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

A week later.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Randomly, yeah. She's she recovers from things very quickly, and uh she got like the best compliment ever when they were like, Oh, this is the healthiest heart rate of a healthy human. Probably um probably like s of someone in their twenties as opposed to her act.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

Yeah, she's recovering very, very well. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Doing well.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

And also the you know, her leg wasn't swollen. Uh there was just a really you know, I think the scar's.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

I mean, I haven't seen the I haven't actually seen the wound yet.

SPEAKER_03 30:11

No, well, it's still it's still covered. Covered. It's still covered, but you can tell that I mean the the bandage that's over it isn't that big.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

No, no, no. No, it's like a little uh it's like a line, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Like a yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah, it's like um She's not she's not worried about the scarring though. I asked her about it and she said she's not too worried about it. I don't think it's gonna be that bad.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

I think because I think it was quite a small small incision what they did. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be that bad. These days. These days. Like I'm old. These days.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

Um so yeah, is that everything you wanted to discuss? Shall we go to Ancestry.com?

SPEAKER_03 30:44

Yeah, because I mean my biggest things were the gig, Tales from the Mammal Frequency, MM productions, and all the work that I've been doing in the background on that one. You, Swingers Holiday, and um yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Not swingers. We stayed just us two.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

But yeah, so yeah, this this so we bought you I bought you an Ancestry kit.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

Uh because obviously we're not blood related, so it would have been it would just be interested to see what yours come out as.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

And you found some interesting things, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Uh I did. I um I found some funny things as well. So I've I've got some traits to share with pe with with everyone as well. Um so kind of thought because of my skin tone and ginger hair, um, that we thought there was probably some Irish in me.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

A bit Celtic.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Um, turns out there's not. None at all. No Irish is in my DNA uh ancestry at all.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

Um well, let's just caveat that for a second, sorry to jump in. Remember that the information is only due to how many people are within the database. Yeah, yeah. But they were I would say the that could be true because my Irish is very high. Yeah. Which we know that anyway, so there are Irish people within the database. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

So that's we know that's a fact, but I I am not in that DNA circle, which is um which is actually quite a shame because I've referred to the Irish as my ancestors for quite a while throughout my life, just thinking naturally, just because of the way I look, but apparently I am not a leprechaun.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

Was there any any Scottish?

SPEAKER_00 32:13

No.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

Really?

SPEAKER_00 32:15

No. So a whopping 77% of my DNA is south-eastern England and northwestern Europe, which is basically East Anglia, Kent, and then a little bit of France and Belgium.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

That's where we are.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

Pretty much, I apparently my family has not moved, or my ancestry has not moved very far from this location at all. 13% of my DNA, 13, we're getting really low numbers now, 13% is West Midlands. Again, not sure where that goes from. West Midlands. Hi, my Welsh ancestors. Um, and 2% of that was Northern Wales and North West England. So basically, just uh avoid Cornwall, but basically, if you go up diagonally, that's me until we reach Ireland, and apparently I don't have anything in there. But fun fact, I'm also got a bit of Denmark DNA in me and some Norwegian.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

Be Viking.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Denmarkian? Denmark?

SPEAKER_03 33:12

Denmarkian.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

Is that what you call someone from Denmark? Denmarkian. Um sounds wrong, sounds weird. Did you know that someone from Hong Kong is a Hongkonger? Sounds wrong, but it's not a Hongkonger. Oh, really? Yeah, not a Hongkongian.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Hongkongian.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

Which also sounds wrong, um, admittedly, but a Hongkonger. Oh. Just fun fact there for you. Um I'm not from Hong Kong, just you know. I just I just wanted to share a fun fact. Um so yeah, that's that's that's cool. Um my parents are my parents, who I thought my parents were, they are them.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

Could some people went a bit Jeremy priority?

SPEAKER_00 33:44

It could have been, it could have been, but um, yeah, and yeah, that all worked out well. Um I wasn't secretly adopted and they just hadn't told me all these years. Um so so yeah. Apparently, a lot of my uh paternal side of the family have done a lot of these DNA tests. There's like a bunch of records there. So um they've already done all the hard work for me. Oh, brilliant. Which is fun. Mum's side, I'm working on. So we'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

I think we need to get your mum one.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:10

I think we should get your mum one.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

Yeah, that'll help me out with mine.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

So so yeah. Um what's uh what is I think the most fun part of Ancestry is finding out kind of based on your DNA what traits you're most likely and least likely to have. So I hearted a few that I thought might be funny to discuss. So first and foremost, I have I don't know how else to say this on a podcast, but I have really weird thumbs. And I've recently learned, as in by recently, I went in the last hour, because I looked at this literally uh just before this podcast episode, because I prepare for these episodes.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

Yeah, we know, yeah. Even someone said that to me at work the other day, and someone said all the scriptures ready, it said, Well, Hannah won't read it.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

No. Um so I have something called a hitchhiker's thumb, which basically means that my thumbs aren't straight, they're bendy.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Bendy thumbs.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

And that's not me forcing it, they just naturally are. I can force them straight, but that hurts more. This is my natural. And you have a straight thumb.

SPEAKER_03 35:13

Yeah, I have a straight thumb.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Because we're not related. Uh blood by blood. Um but yeah, I have bendy thumbs, and it does say that I was most likely to have hitchhiker thumb bendy thumbs.

SPEAKER_03 35:23

Really? So it is an actual genetic trait.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

It's a genetic trait. Um, which is really cool. Do we want to see what side of the family that come from? Um, it says it says unassigned, actually, so they don't know. They don't know which side of the family that come from, but um, but yeah, I thought that was funny.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

Well I suppose if your mum did hers, then that will Yeah re Yeah, reveal.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

Reveal. Reveal where I got my Bendy thumbs from. It said that I was less likely to be artistic.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

Really?

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Do you agree?

SPEAKER_03 35:51

No.

Family Updates And A New Knee

SPEAKER_00 35:51

Cool. Maybe I should maybe I should ask you actually where you think I'd fall. Okay. Because they're kind of on a spectrum of like kind of least likely, most likely, most most of the way through, depending on what. What about desire to succeed?

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Desire to succeed.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

Like likely motivated by success, for example.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

I would say likely.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Yeah, I was. I was likely, but not most likely, but likely.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

Doing things alone.

SPEAKER_03 36:14

Ooh, most likely.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Not most, but more. Ah, more likely.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

What do you think it said that my hair type would be?

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Ah, red.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

So no no no hair type, sorry, sorry, let me let me explain. So you've got straight, less straight, yeah, yeah. Curly, tight curl.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

Straight.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

It's actually wavy, which does surprise me because my hair is completely dead straight. There is no curl in my hair whatsoever. Uh, what about hand eye coordination?

SPEAKER_03 36:42

Shocking.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Surprisingly, apparently, I'm more likely to have good hand eye alternation. So um genetics, please help me out here. Like, can you make me better?

SPEAKER_03 36:54

Maybe maybe that's nature versus nurture, right?

SPEAKER_00 36:57

Yeah, that is the that is definitely nurture there. What about hangriness? Oh my god. Am I am I angry when I'm hungry? I don't think you are, are you? No, apparently I'm unlikely to get hangry. And I wouldn't say that I'm that.

SPEAKER_03 37:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:12

If anything, I eat when I'm I eat less when I'm upset.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

So yeah. What do you think about my heat tolerance?

SPEAKER_03 37:20

Your heat tolerance?

SPEAKER_00 37:21

This is from mum's side. This specifically says from the maternal side.

SPEAKER_03 37:24

Uh oh, I'd say it's shocking.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

It's actually not. Really? Apparently I would be able to tolerate heat well. That is not true.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

No, I was gonna say both you and your mum when it comes to temperatures are actually your mum's got better over the years.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Um, would you say I'm an introvert or an extrovert?

SPEAKER_03 37:40

Ooh. Extrovert.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

I would say I'm an extroverted introvert.

SPEAKER_03 37:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

That's how I'd describe myself because I because I am very approachable, friendly, you know, whatever, whatever you put on your CV. Um, you know, I'm all of those things, but I do like my solitude as well of that introvertedness nature.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Um, how high do you think I can jump?

unknown 38:03

Well, not very high. Not very tall.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

You are correct. According to my ancestry, I'm unlikely to be a high jumper. Oh no, my high jumping career. What will I ever do?

SPEAKER_03 38:17

You could run under the hurdles.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

I could. They never thought about that in the rules, did they? They probably did actually.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

Um just running underneath them. Coming through.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

They said clear the hurdle. They didn't say below or above, man. Uh yeah, that was uh how persistent do you think I am? Apparently, this is from both my parents, but the influence is from the maternal side.

SPEAKER_03 38:41

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Say again, sorry, I was reading something else then and just completely blocked you out.

Ancestry Reveal: DNA And Traits

SPEAKER_00 38:46

Sorry. It's not how podcasts work, Father, to be honest, mate. Oh no. Mate. Ask again. How persistent do you think I am? Or very. Oh, I'm actually on the I'm likely to be persistent, but not the most persistent.

SPEAKER_03 39:01

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

What about pet ownership?

SPEAKER_03 39:03

Yes, 100%, most likely. Yeah, most likely.

SPEAKER_00 39:07

Performing choreography.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

Oh my god. Yeah, no. No.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

Apparently I find performing choreography the most difficult. Yeah, exactly. I'm on the I could not be more on the bottom.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Okay, what about playing an instrument?

SPEAKER_03 39:21

Oh, likely.

SPEAKER_00 39:23

Yeah, I've got most likely on that one. Playing music by ear.

SPEAKER_03 39:28

Oh, interesting. I would say most likely.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Apparently, I'm more likely, not most likely. However, I would disagree hard. I really struggle to play by ear. Really? Yeah, it's one of my worst musical traits. What about picky eating?

SPEAKER_03 39:46

Oh, most likely.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Apparently, I would be more likely to be picky eater, but not most likely. So although I am, I would definitely cast myself as a picky eater.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

Yeah. It's uh what about um yeah, it's it's it's up there. What about quick reflexes?

SPEAKER_03 40:01

Quick reflexes, no. No, shockingly bad.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

I'm shockingly bad, and it agrees. Slower reflexes. I I could not be slower. Um apparently I'm more likely to get a runner's high, more likely to remember dreams, more likely to be self-disciplined, which I 100% agree with as well. Okay. Skin pigmentation lighter. Endurance runner more than a sprinter, also agree. Self-confidence. Where do you think I said?

SPEAKER_03 40:26

Or I would say middle.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

I'm actually on the more modest side. So yeah, uh middle, middle modest um rather than most confident. What do you think about my sweet sensitivity?

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Ooh, y I'd say it's quite high.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

It is high, apparently, yeah, because I don't eat a lot of fruit for that reason. Dairy intolerance.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

Oh, oh, this will be interesting because I know you are dairy intolerant. So I would please it must say it comes up likely.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

It doesn't. Doesn't? No, I'm like more likely to tolerate dairy. Really? So, which leads me to believe that either this is wrong or it's psychosomatic.

SPEAKER_03 41:03

Could well, could be. Could be. Could be.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

I'm less likely to develop my wisdom teeth, which is also true. I only have two out of the four that you're supposed to have. Yeah. Um, more likely to try new things. I like that one. Yeah. Um and taking naps.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

Oh, yes, we know that.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

No, apparently I'm not a nap taker. That lied. Which is a lie.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

It lies because you do I'd messaged you the other day and you went, oh, yeah, I'll message you back now, but don't message me again because I'm now taking a nap.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

In my defence, I was very poorly.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

You were very poorly, but I was very poorly.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

I would normally never say, don't text me, I'm having a nap, but I was genuinely so poorly I needed to sleep that off. But yeah, that's my ancestry. Quite shocked by the results, to be honest. Thought there was a bit more I thought there was some Irish in me, um, but none at all. None at all. Um so I guess sorry for all of the jokes I made thinking that I was part of the crew, and now I'm not part of the crew.

SPEAKER_03 41:59

You're just racist.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Just racist, just flower racist now. So yeah, yeah, crazy. But yeah, I've I've really enjoyed this experience that I've been able to have from the gift that you gave me for my birthday. Excellent. It was very cool. I've never thought that spitting in a tube would get me so much information, but here we are. Really enjoyed my time.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

Do you have anything to add to our life update podcast? No, that's it. I think we're just about there. Lovely. So um, if you're listening to us for the first time, we very rarely talk about ourselves for this um long amount of time, but it's just because we've had a bit of a hiatus. Um, and uh thank you to everyone that has um a couple of people reached out being like, when's the next podcast episode?

SPEAKER_03 42:39

It's also easing us back into it as well.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

It has eased us back into it. This is quite nice. I feel eased.

SPEAKER_03 42:43

You feel eased?

SPEAKER_00 42:43

I feel eased back into it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Should we do the Halloween episode?

SPEAKER_00 42:46

Let's do the Halloween episode next. Um, which will come out first for you guys, so you'll hear this one afterwards. Um but yes.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

So the next episode for you guys might be cults or music legends.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 42:57

One of those.

SPEAKER_00 42:57

Dun dun dun dun dun. Depending on which way around we'll do it.

SPEAKER_03 43:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Um, but yes, we hope you enjoyed this episode. Yeah, it's been a it's been a blast.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

Remember, we do have an outro so you don't have to do it.

SPEAKER_00 43:07

Oh yeah, we do have an outro. How did I forget? We're back, baby.

SPEAKER_03 43:11

Yeah, so what do you say now?

SPEAKER_00 43:12

You say I say cue the outro. Thanks for joining us on bonus dad, bonus daughter. Don't forget to follow us on all our socials and share the podcast with someone who'd love it. We are available on all streaming platforms. See you next time. Bye-bye.