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Welcome to "Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter," a heartwarming and insightful podcast celebrating the unique bond between a stepfather Davey, and his stepdaughter Hannah.
Join them as they explore the joys, challenges, and everyday moments that make this relationship special.
Each episode they take a topic and discuss the differences, similarities and the effect each one had one them
Featuring candid conversations, personal stories, and many laughs
Whether you're a step-parent, stepchild, or simply interested in family dynamics, "Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter" offers a fresh perspective on love, family, and the bonds that unite us.
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Fantastic Beasts And Where Not To Find Them
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What happens when mythical beasts from around the world face off in an epic battle royale? Join us for a fascinating journey through global folklore as we pit legendary creatures against each other to determine the ultimate mythological champion.
After catching up on life events—including Davey's upcoming 50th birthday celebrations (complete with DJ decks and surprise beach parties) and Hannah's medical adventures (recounted with her characteristic humour)—we dive deep into the realm of legendary beings from diverse cultures.
From the snake-haired Medusa of Greek mythology to the gentle, leaf-covered Green Man of Celtic lore, we explore the origins, powers, and vulnerabilities of creatures that have captivated human imagination for centuries. Our mythical tournament continues with Norse wolf-god Fenrir squaring off against the majestic Hippogriff, while the haunting Irish Banshee faces the mighty Kraken of the deep. The versatile Arabian Djinn brings magical shapeshifting powers to challenge Scotland's famous Loch Ness Monster in our final round.
Through laughter, debate, and unexpected digressions (including a surprising theory about Loki's connection to Christian mythology), we uncover the human fears, hopes, and cultural values embedded in these legendary beings. Whether you're fascinated by mythology, enjoy playful parent-child banter, or simply wonder which mythical creature would reign supreme, this episode delivers entertainment alongside cultural insights. Listen now to discover which legendary beast earns our crown as the ultimate mythological champion!
Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad. Bonus Daughter a special father-daughter podcast with me Hannah and me, davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world, Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view and influences throughout the decades, or you could choose one by contacting us via email, instagram, facebook or TikTok links in bio.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to another episode of Bonus Dad, bonus Daughter. We are here in the living room. I didn't say live that time.
Speaker 1:No, you didn't say live, you're very good, you're very good, very, very good yeah.
Speaker 2:We're going to do a little bit of a life update. We actually haven't recorded a episode in about six weeks. Yeah, it's well over a month, isn't it? Oh, episode in about six weeks. Yeah, it's well over a month, isn't it? Oh, yeah, easy, yeah, yeah. So we had a backlog of videos, uh, which are out now, all out. So this one we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to put the pedal to the metal oh yeah, I'm gonna have to mix this.
Speaker 2:I'm actually gonna do it afterwards, yeah, yeah I've got to mix this this afternoon so this is fresh off the press, yeah, as as all our life update ones generally are yeah, so this, this, this episode now will be out this Thursday. This Thursday.
Speaker 1:This is the 13th of July. We're recording this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And this is coming out on the 17th of July.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, after someone's birthday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So when this is out, I will actually be 50 years old 50 years old.
Speaker 2:50 years old.
Speaker 1:Half a century 50 years young 50.
Speaker 2:This is basically the halfway point. To what oh, we're halfway there.
Speaker 1:Does this mean I'm officially middle-aged?
Speaker 2:I think you already were. I think I'm past that, aren't I? You're past middle-aged. But yeah, we'll say that You're officially middle-aged. Can I have a midlife crisis now, please? Yeah, what car are?
Speaker 1:you gonna get. You're not into cars, I don't know what car your midlife crisis. Oh, guitar, obviously actually, actually your mum is buying me something. Oh yeah, I know about this, do you?
Speaker 2:I do and I knew that you knew about it, so I'm not ruining a surprise yeah, maybe you should say it first, just in case I heard something else.
Speaker 1:I genuinely don't kind of, I don't really want anything as such for my birthday.
Speaker 2:It's so hard to buy for, because if you want something, you just buy it straight away.
Speaker 1:Exactly. So I'm going to get a set of decks DJ decks, that's pretty cool. Yeah, a set of DJ decks. Because not vinyl? Because that's just ridiculous money. Um, set of techniques, I think they're about a grand each now. So, and then you've got to buy the vinyl on top, and they're really expensive, but no, how do you do it it's going to be um streamed music, so you can.
Speaker 1:and, oh, do you know? I watched a couple youtube videos on how to do it. It is so, so easy. Frick-a-frick-a-fresh. Yeah, it pretty much does it all for you. Oh, it is so easy, just lazy DJing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's lazy DJing it kind of is, but it'll be fun, a fun hobby for you to pick up again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just pressing buttons.
Speaker 2:Just pressing buttons. Well, this is kind of what podcasting, what to choose for the, because the visual people won't have that sound.
Speaker 1:It was basically a Trombone. It was a trombone.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was a trombone, but in a sad tone.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, you are turning 50. We actually should we talk about the beach yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we had a little bit of a surprise party, didn't we? On the beach?
Speaker 2:We did. I was the surprise because you knew about everything else. I don't understand that in most ways.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I thought we were getting chips after. I didn't realise you were bringing picnics and all of that. We were just going to the beach because it is roasting out there.
Speaker 2:But basically I had a call and this is how, last minute it was father. I hope you don't mind me.
Speaker 2:I don't mind this at all so, basically, I got a call at half eight in the morning from mum, and I'm thinking that's an early call for mum. There's obviously something wrong, because every time no one, no one calls me, other than when there's a problem or a surprise party, evidently. So she called me and she was like hi, um, are you, are you free to come to the beach? Um, you and mitchell. And I was like oh, you know, mitchell's on a stag, do like, uh, like, obviously he can't, um, but yeah, like I can, I can come along. Cool, that's great. Can you get a load of food from sainsbury's? All right, mum. So yeah, I got a load of food, and then I didn't know how many people were going, so I had to guess.
Speaker 2:I think I did pretty well you did pretty well left over, so I didn't underfeed people, yeah, um, and got some things and I was like are there any vegetarians, vegans? They didn't turn up, so that was wasted um and then um got some juice. I was really, I was really hot on this juice because I thought, oh you kept going on about the juice.
Speaker 2:You were trying to force juice onto people I was, because I thought they were all very healthy people. So I was thinking they won't want a carbonated drink. They'll think that's too many calories. So I got juice. No one drank it. I was so upset and it was like innocent juice. Like it was. It was, you know, bespoke juice yeah, it was the good stuff.
Speaker 1:It's the good stuff.
Speaker 2:It was the good stuff, I'm mad that no one drank it, because I even got avenger cups for it and avenger plates you did, and you got spider-man napkins as well, didn't you? I feel like mum would have wanted to do classy and I'm just not a classy person, so I was just like I know what.
Speaker 1:Davey would like yeah, you did. Yeah, you're very, very good every bit of food.
Speaker 2:I was like David would eat this, david would eat this, david would eat this. I got you. Like what? 12 pork pies oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was lots of pork pies. I love a pork pie, especially the melt and moby ones. I love a melt and moby yeah, I did good.
Speaker 2:I love it. The other one was a really weird flavor and I was like yeah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Don't mess around with pork pies. Don't mess with a pork pie. Don't mess with a pork pie. Pork pies are pork pies. Pork pies are pork pies, they are. You heard it here first folks, what else has been happening in our lives as well.
Speaker 2:Anything else you've done? Yeah but I reckon you should go first, because mine's a bit crude.
Speaker 1:Well, the reason why we haven't recorded for so long is because I went back to. America for a couple of weeks. Jet setter over here I know I've been to America twice now in one year.
Speaker 2:And before the half year? Oh no, that's not true. I was going to say you've got half the year left to go and you've been to America twice. That's crazy. That's not actually true, because we're past the halfway point we are past the halfway point oh, we're halfway there.
Speaker 1:Now I went to new jersey. You did new jersey, which I keep calling philadelphia.
Speaker 2:For some reason it's so close we fly into philadelphia well, I keep saying how was philly?
Speaker 1:and you're like I was in new jersey and I'm like yeah, I know well philadelphia is is near where we were, because we're in a place called Millville, because that's where my family are yeah, yeah yeah, I just went to see my cousins, my aunties and my grandmother.
Speaker 2:Is Philly in New Jersey.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Is it in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 1:It's in Pennsylvania, yeah, yeah, it's in Pennsylvania Because they're so close, aren't they? Like the borders of New Jersey. So we actually went across the Delaware River as well. So we went across the Delaware.
Speaker 2:Oh, they're south, so they're proper on the border. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then we went to New York for a couple of days as well, and saw Six on Broadway, which was brilliant.
Speaker 2:Yes, good, it was really good.
Speaker 1:I must ask mum about that and it only took considering. When you think of america it's like huge and you know it'd take ages to drive anywhere.
Speaker 2:Two and a half three hours to drive to new york yeah not, so, not, not far yeah, you could just go for new york for the day it's like us going to london for the day exactly that. Yeah, yeah, uh, and it was um, we're a little bit closer, maybe geographically, to london, norwich, yeah yeah, a little bit closer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, went to time because we stayed in time square, cool. All we could, all I could think about, was the electricity bill.
Speaker 2:Honestly, honestly, that's such a dad thing to think it was like it's like blackboard, it was it was like this is so unnecessary.
Speaker 1:It really is. I mean, everywhere you look there's another screen, that's so, dad of you?
Speaker 2:It's just insane.
Speaker 1:It's just absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:Not like oh wow, look at all these sites. Oh, I bet the electricity bill's high. It was ridiculous. You're like the weirdest tourist ever. I bet you were like I wonder how much this is to insure. I stole that joke from Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1:sorry, I spent a couple of days in New York. I'll tell you what else I did as well. I went to Red Bank in New Jersey for the day. You're going to have to let me know what Red Bank is.
Speaker 2:I have a feeling. I do know what it is.
Speaker 1:Kevin Smith fans will know what Red Bank is, so I did an unofficial.
Speaker 2:Can you explain? Kevin Smith, Right so.
Speaker 1:Kevin Smith is a director, uh and also an actor, and he created a couple of characters called jane silent bob that's, that's the that's.
Speaker 2:That's what people want to hear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so he is silent bob and he wrote clark's more rats chasing amy um dogma, and then jane silent bob, strike bag j Bob Reboot, and they're all part of the same universe.
Speaker 1:And so I did an unofficial Kevin Smith tour, going to all the locations of where the, where the films were yeah and the best bit was because obviously it was just me and your mum in the car and we were going to the first place was the quick stop at that's in Clarks. So I was. I wanted a picture outside the shop and the moment we were driving I felt really bad. So I was like you know, this is literally just like a spa, like a spa shop. It's just a corner, it's nothing special, it's just a shop. But I was like when I got there I was like, oh my god, I'm actually here, did?
Speaker 1:they have any like memorabilia yeah side and all of that, yeah, and the guy when I went into, uh, when I went into the shop, he even said to me said do you want the receipt for your hershey bar, just to prove that you've been in here? I?
Speaker 2:was like yeah, I do, yeah, oh, you bought something from there as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's cool, that's so cool but I walked in and I was like, oh, that's the counter over there where randall should be, and yeah, it's like yeah I bet some people walk into that shop having no idea.
Speaker 2:And then I bet it's nice when the staff gets someone who's like a fan and they're like or maybe not, maybe it's the opposite they're like I don't like fans and they're like oh God another one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he was a little bit, but then when I started talking I was English, he kind of he lightened up a little bit.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yeah so hey, you Australian.
Speaker 1:Nope, no From the UK.
Speaker 2:The people that you don't like right now Politically.
Speaker 1:To be fair, that wasn't too bad. Nah, nah, that wasn't too bad. All good, it was all good. But yeah, it was really good, interesting and I had a really good time, jet. I had a really good time. Jet lagged to buggery.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not feeling well, today, are you?
Speaker 1:I'm really not with it. And like a week later and I'm still not right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jet lag is a bitch.
Speaker 1:It is, I think yeah, I must admit I'm feeling a bit rough today. I think I don't know if it's the.
Speaker 2:Do we allow that word on the podcast.
Speaker 1:What's that? A bit rough? No, the b word. What did you say? Bitch? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're allowing that one. Yeah, um, but I think the sun the sun's out, it's very hot, the sun, the sun, it's very, very hot. I haven't had much sleep and, yeah, I'm a bit, I'm a bit laggy, a bit laggy I actually texted you this morning saying can you give me like one, like 15 more minutes? I was pleased that you did.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you were because I thought, oh, he's gonna be so annoyed at me. But basically I tell you what I set an alarm, so don't think I didn't, because I did. I set an alarm for eight and one of those stupid things where I just fell back to sleep again after the alarm. Oh, okay, Bugger.
Speaker 1:And then I woke up and it was half eight and I was like oh God, and then I went back to sleep and then woke up at like quarter past eight, I think it was. So I was, I was running a little bit late myself this morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank goodness, we were both needing that extra 15 minutes.
Speaker 1:Gotcha it's nice yeah. So what about yourself?
Speaker 2:What you been up to, hannah Medical stuff so I think I think it's good to talk about. So we did have a podcast episode where I um, I mentioned about women's health and told my kind of story in relation to women's health. So if you want to listen to that for some context, please do, uh, but trigger warning on it, it's it's. It's not our usual light-hearted content. However, this one is light-hearted because it's quite funny story.
Speaker 1:So just just you can just jump in very quickly. Jump, so you're uh, the episode that we did on women's health. I actually had a few messages from people at work saying that they listened to it and they thought it was brilliant and they thought they were very uh, what's the word? Honestly brain sympathetic yeah, very sympathetic but also very pleased that you did that episode, yeah, and said that you know.
Speaker 2:Thank you people for giving a voice about that, yeah I think I mean, there's a lot of women out there that are giving a voice to it, but it is nice to do it on a platform where I feel comfortable as well, absolutely where this is a safe space.
Speaker 2:And I think I've also had messages as well, um, from mostly from kind of friends, um, ellie particularly um messaged me afterwards it was like, oh, I didn't realize, like how much you're going through and stuff which is so sweet, um, and I love, I love messages like that. So thank you, um, to everyone that's that's commented and said things, um, but this is kind of a light hearted, funny story about it, um, so basically, uh, yes, um, I have abdominal pain and uh, it's it's been. I've been through gynecology now for five years. They've now transferred me to the bowel people, so I had quite an unpleasant hospital appointment very recently where they had to do an internal inspection, and I came out of that appointment feeling quite violated and dehumanised. Actually, it wasn't the greatest appointment I've had over my five-year tenure of trying to get a, a diagnosis, um, so I sent a text to the famalam chat, uh, which came through on your apple watch, I believe, whilst you're in a meeting at work.
Speaker 1:It did, it did. So I was in, uh, I was in quite a very important meeting at work, uh, whereby I was. I was talking about some pretty serious stuff and my watch buzzed and as I looked down at my watch to see what it was, and it was just a whatsapp message and it just said right. So I don't know, actually know what I've got you stored as in my phone hannah banana ginger daughter yeah, hannah banana ginger daughter is what is what it says.
Speaker 1:So it came up, hannah Banana Ginger Daughter and it just said I've just had a finger up the bum. And that was all that was showing on my watch. Dot dot dot, the suspense. And I just kind of stopped talking and looked at my phone and one of the people Are you okay? I went. I'm not sure. I've just had a text from my daughter. I just need to see what the rest of the context is here, because I can't even tell you what this is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was all he said.
Speaker 1:I've just had a finger up the bum.
Speaker 2:Dot dot dot Because, yeah, because I wrote a whole sentence after that. That was my lighthearted way of saying that I need a colonoscopy, which I've got booked later this month. Nice, hey, so excited for that. So, yeah, I've got a colonoscopy appointment. But yeah, we thought that was a funny tidbit to share insight into our, I guess into how comfortable we are with each other, talking about fingers and bums mainly, yeah, Indeed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a very uncomfortable experience. It was an uncomfortable experience. Ten out of ten would not do again. But yes, we have to do these things to get a diagnosis. We do indeed. Maybe I can update the listeners if I actually get a diagnosis.
Speaker 1:How cool would that be? That'd be pretty cool yeah.
Speaker 2:But that's pretty much. That's all that's happened in my life. That's significant. Oh, you went to Philly and New Jersey. I keep saying Philly, see it's in my brain. I went to Milton Keynes Mm-hmm, bit of a step down, I think. You know, in the grand scheme of things, yeah, when I was on a hen do that was cool, and then that's pretty much all I've done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, not really much else.
Speaker 2:No, boring, boring lady, so you? That actually has all the tales and the gossip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Have I told the podcasters, since I've booked a holiday to Tenerife, though. Yes, because we had the add the pineapples, the pineapple issue. Yeah, the pineapple issue. I remember now.
Speaker 1:I did check your hotel. I think you're fine.
Speaker 2:Oh, you did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you're fine, I'm just going to avoid any pineapple. Yeah, I think you're fine. I think you're fine Cool. Okay, should we actually move on to the podcast. Yes, the clue will probably be in the name of the podcast, because it does come up with a name. So, people will know, before they actually start listening, what the podcast is about. Yes, yes, this is one of your ideas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I have this.
Speaker 1:This is a first.
Speaker 2:That's not true. I've written loads, but most recently, yes, you've done the bulk of the work. So this time I have decided to what.
Speaker 1:What has happened to your mind?
Speaker 2:I think I just, I think I just had like a brain fog moment there, sorry, yeah, uh, let me try that again. Okay, oh, okay, weirdly enough. Uh, so this part I don't know if I should edit that out in the actual video I just like, completely like had a stroke I'm gonna.
Speaker 1:She sells seashells on the seashore, yeah she sells seashells on the seashore.
Speaker 2:Now we're good, okay? Um, that's. That's the stroke test. Personal stroke test. Yes, sorry, this episode is going to be all about mythical creatures yes I asked father to present me five myth, mythical freak creatures mythical creatures mythical creatures and then I think we should decide which one would would win in the fight oh, oh, are we going to have a fight, okay, okay. I know you probably didn't pick. I didn't pick thinking of that thinking of that, but it would be cool if we did.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think mine are hard as nails.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Mine are tough as nails, so you'd take them to war.
Speaker 2:They would be in your Avengers group.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, these definitely would be your.
Speaker 2:Avengers group. Oh my God these definitely would be Right. So I think Father Maya have used ChatGPT. I have got a book because I wanted to show people that we can actually read and research outside of ChatGPT. What I did is.
Speaker 1:I didn't just do ChatGPT, I just said give me five mythical creatures, because that's just lazy. I chose mythical creatures from different areas around the world so I haven't just gone greek or norse or roman, I've actually gone one or two from around.
Speaker 2:I see, I see so I have, um, I have this book and there's a, there's a few in there that I really really like, so basically, I've chosen ones that I just like all right okay um and minor. Minor categorized by earth, fire, wind, fire, wind and water.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the elements, the elements, yeah, so mine.
Speaker 2:I won't maybe have as much information as you, but we're going to see First of all, though, before we do.
Speaker 1:I did just have a little look about the origin of mythical creatures. It's like where do they come from? So I have a very small paragraph. Go on then, read your small paragraph. It says that they are deeply rooted in human history, culture, psychology and our desire to explain the unknown. These creatures often emerged from oral traditions, religious beliefs, natural phenomena or symbolic representation of human fears, hopes and values.
Speaker 2:Lovely. So there you go. I agree with the ones that I have chosen in my head, which I try to. Uh, if you've got a similar one, I'll change it, but the ones I've chosen. I think uh fall into that category excellent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these do, these do as well come on, do cool.
Speaker 2:Would you like to start us off?
Speaker 1:so, first of all, my first mythical creature that I have chosen I can put a picture up here as well is a greek mythical creature oh, I love a bit of greek me and I'm going in hard. Okay, going in hard. This one is a toughy. It's medusa. Oh, medusa, medusa. So she's one of the gorgons, she is one of the immortal sisters, indeed, and there is a legend. Who heard the legend of perseus?
Speaker 2:well, you would have done, because yeah, me, I have, but our listeners might not have yeah, and perseus actually killed medusa.
Speaker 1:Well, he cut off her head yeah, yeah he didn't quite kill her.
Speaker 1:He cut off her head because her hair head is made of snakes and her gaze turns people to stone, and perseus used a mirrored shield so he didn't look at her, yes, yes, and chopped off her head. Chopped off her head in greece. And there is, uh, in trying to think of the film clash of the titans, yeah, clash of the titans, which was an 80s film with mark harry hamlin, who was also in la law, by the way and then they remade it later on. They remade it, I think, in the noughties.
Speaker 2:I see.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's hard as nails is Medusa. She's hard as nails Because he killed sorry, perseus killed the other creature by using Medusa's head Head yeah, he held her head. They held the snakes Out of the bag, out of the bag, yeah. And her gaze turned it to stunt.
Speaker 2:I think she's quite a misunderstood villain.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:A little bit of background information. The reason she is the way she is is because of abuse, abuse. She was abused and that's why I won't go into too much detail because it's not really family friendly. But yeah, she was. She's got a kind of decorated past and that's why I think a lot of villains in a lot of cultures come from some sort of wrongdoing to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it was actually. It was Athena who messed around with them. Well, not messed around, but like, turned her hair into snakes, wasn't it I?
Speaker 2:don don't know about the snake part, but the reason she was kind of angry at everyone was this abuse um that she suffered and I do think as an ending, you know she, she probably needed counseling, um, but like to have her head in a bag, uh, for the rest of her life, it's not yeah, not a good quality of life.
Speaker 1:But yeah, um very misunderstood in my opinion, but this is why I think she's tough as nails, because she was decapitated and she survived. Oh yeah, of course she can't die, she's immortal.
Speaker 2:She's immortal, yeah, she just can't grow back her limbs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so who have you chosen? Well, I've gone. Who are you going to choose to fight Medusa?
Speaker 2:Well, this person wouldn't put. Well, this person, this being, I guess, wouldn't put up much of a fight. I've gone with the green man english, celtic, yeah, so often found carved into old stone and wooden buildings. The green man is a symbol of nature, fertility and season of spring. He was covered from head to toe in leaves, acorns and berries. The origin of the green man dates back as far into the past that even experts aren't quite sure how old the myth really is. Basically um, I think this comes from. The green man is um.
Speaker 2:Like often, people personify things in nature yeah and I think it's the personification of, like the markings that you can get in trees and leaves and people will. Naturally there is a name for it, but it's escaping me now, but there's like a um I know what you mean, where people see faces, faces and things, and I think this is where the green man origin perhaps came from as a psychological phenomenon.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I, um, I just quite like, I think, because he's like earthy and cool and I don't know I just the green man to me is it it it's just plausible in a sense of yeah, I know I can, I can picture why people would believe in the creature. I don't think the green man's actually done anything wrong either. No, no, in a sense of yeah, I know, I can picture why people would believe in such a creature.
Speaker 1:I don't think the green man's actually done anything wrong either. No, no, no, he's just. He's just chilling. He's just chilling in nature, isn't?
Speaker 2:he yeah, and I think that's why I respect him yeah yeah yeah, I respect the guy, so yeah.
Speaker 1:So pitting green Medusa, who would win? Probably Medusa Medusa.
Speaker 2:But would she be able to turn leaves into stone, because it's not a real man.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe he's a, you know, he's an anomaly in that sense.
Speaker 1:And also maybe it could be one of those fights that last for an eternity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, constant battle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, constant battle Between nature and well, snakes and stone, stone, yeah, yeah, and stone and stone stone yeah, yeah, okay, well, we'll go with.
Speaker 2:I think we're gonna have to go with Medusa on that one really just just because of well, head in a bag, medusa no but full, non-beheaded.
Speaker 1:Medusa. Yes, full Medusa, full Medusa. Yeah, yeah, okay coolest of beans, mm-hmm. Who have you got? Next it's you next me next um. I went with fenrir oh, is that?
Speaker 2:uh, is that a werewolfy type thing? Fenrir is a wolf yeah, because that's he's named um. There's a harry potter character named after him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, so fenrir is, is the wolf, son of loki and in norse, mythology yeah, loki, trickster god, yes, the trickster god didn't realize he had children.
Speaker 2:Who with who's the mum?
Speaker 1:uh, the mum is a lady, but called angra bitter didn't expect you to know that yes, there you go and the prophecy goes in north mythology, because there's, uh, the end of the world. In norse mythology is a thing called ragnarok. I know from that thor ragnarok, yeah, yeah but we know ragnarok.
Speaker 2:Ragnarok, by the way, the best. I think that's the best Thor movie. I'm just putting it out there. It is good.
Speaker 1:That is the best one out of the Thors, but in Ragnarok it was prophesied that Fenrir would be the one to kill Odin.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:He's a bloody great big wolf.
Speaker 2:But Loki killed old.
Speaker 1:Od Now, Fenrir was actually bound In mythology. He was bound by these big old chains, but he did get free of these chains, because the prophecy was that he would be the one to kill.
Speaker 2:Odin, I can't understand why you'd want him bound.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then when he does get free, ragnarok happens. He kills Odin and then Fenrir is actually slain by Vidar.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so do you think how tough Fenrir is? Fenrir will kill the Allfather.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:From what is Norse mythology. I heard a theory about Loki.
Speaker 2:Oh, carry on. Because, he's a misunderstood villain.
Speaker 1:in my opinion, he is a very misunderstood villain, and this is true because I have read the poetic Edda. I've read a lot of Norse mythology stuff and this story is true because I have read the poetic Edda, I've read a lot of like Norse mythology stuff and this story is true. It's true in mythology. It's true in mythology yeah, In true mythology that the theory goes that Loki right is actually the Christian God.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because there is a story within. Norse mythology that Loki forbids people to give them an apple because the apple is an apple of knowledge.
Speaker 1:Interesting, yes, and that's why women's health is so poor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there is a theory that loki is actually the christian god, I think. I know you normally got a religious rant, but I think I'm just gonna. I'm gonna take the reins on this one. I think what annoys me about the adam and eve story so much is that a lot of, a lot of stress is put on the fact the women, the woman eve, tempted adam, that she's the temptress, yes, and that annoys me.
Speaker 2:I think I think that's why we have this narrative nowadays of like the double standard, of like a man whore versus a woman whore, and I'm just like that started with the Bible and that narrative really frustrates me. I'm sure it's not that deep.
Speaker 1:They found the first page of the Bible, didn't they Not that long ago, really? Yeah, it said this book is a work of fiction and first page of the bible, didn't they not that long ago really? Yeah, it said this book is a work of fiction and any anything portraying to any person's living or dead is, but is purely, is purely coincidental. Uh, yeah, but the there is a theory that there, because the story is quite there, is a story that's quite similar, that loki they actually, when they did that, loki is the christian god. There you go, uh, yes, so so what's yours? What's yours?
Speaker 2:um, I'm gonna go with a creature that I feel. This is a wind one, now windy one. It's a creature that I've been thinking about a lot of and was obsessed with, and it was in a remake of the alice in wonderland story where alice was in a yellow dress and I don't. I can't remember what, who the movie was, but it wasn't like the, the Disney one, and it wasn't the Alice remake most recently. It was quite an old one and there was a creature in it called a hippogriff. Oh, I love a hippogriff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're cool yeah, yeah, yeah um, so not to be confused with griffins, which is a griffin is like a, like a, like a bird with a lion back situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Although they are apparently close cousins, hippogriffs were much easier for humans to train and easier to ride. They had the hindquarters of a horse and a gentle temperament to match. Once tamed, hippogriffs made the most faithful of companions and were much braver than horses in battle. They had tiny brains, however, and insatiable appetites. Even the most obedient of their kind was likely to steal from its master's plate, basically a Labrador.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, a.
Speaker 2:Labrador, a horse Labrador with wings yes, and I think a hippogriff is so cool and I just remember it being in that Alice in Wonderland I'm not even sure if it's in the Lewis Carroll book, just in this adaptation that I watched and I remember being obsessed with this absolute creature because he was proper like wise, but I do remember him eating lots, but he was wise in the mock turtle soup situation. Is there not a hippogriff in Harry Potter? Yes, there is a hippogriff. Yeah, buckbeak, yeah, buckbeak's a hippogriff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah maybe that's where my slight obsession comes from as well. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. Maybe Alice in Wonderland was a griffin, but yeah, yeah, I'm going to go with Hippogriff, okay.
Speaker 1:So what was?
Speaker 2:your.
Speaker 1:So you've, got.
Speaker 2:So I've gone with flying. Yeah, and he likes to eat. Would he fly and eat a werewolf?
Speaker 1:Well, this is the thing. I mean Fenrir's huge, I mean absolutely huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but my dude won't fly away from his grass.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and also he's got a beak, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a difficult one, and Buckbeak is huge, yeah, so I think Humans ride them, so they've got to be fairly big.
Speaker 1:I reckon the Hippogriff would win.
Speaker 2:I think so too.
Speaker 1:Because you know air superiority.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think so too, because you know air superiority. Yeah, yeah, I feel like he's got the higher ground, yeah.
Speaker 1:Always yeah the high ground. And look what happened to Obi-Wan and Anakin. You know Obi-Wan had the high ground, Anakin ended up legless.
Speaker 2:Legless.
Speaker 1:Legless. He had his legs chopped off.
Speaker 2:I thought, that was a character in Lord of the.
Speaker 1:Rings Legolas, yeah, legolas oh, is it because?
Speaker 2:does he have legs? Of course he has legs, he's an elf. Why is he called that then?
Speaker 1:that's just his name oh okay, tolkien, probably was just just named him Legolas. Okay, I mean, why would Boromir be called Boromir?
Speaker 2:I don't know why would Davy be called Davy, I suppose?
Speaker 1:why would uh, mary and pippin be called mary and pippin, frodo, bilbo, baggins, baggins, baggins, a bag end, uh, so, yeah. So we're saying so, one to me, one to you. Yes, yep, so one. Oh, are we doing the score? Is this like a quiz?
Speaker 2:we're doing a score no, no, we're not doing a score.
Speaker 1:You'll remember the numbers what one one? Yeah, I think I can just just to be sure, I've now gone from Scandinavia to Ireland.
Speaker 2:Ireland. I knew you were going to have an Irish one. Yes, I steered clear of the Irish ones, did you? Yep, did you? If you've gone, leprechaun, I'm going to. I haven't gone, leprechaun I'm not going to go leprechaun, exactly I was going to put you in the sin bin for that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's too obvious, I've gone Banshee.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, Reminds me of Supernatural. Have we got any Supernatural fans?
Speaker 1:Of course we have. Well, there's two here.
Speaker 2:I'd love the fact I just did that, expecting a response. I can't believe I just did that.
Speaker 1:I was just like uh Kind of fell flat. It did fall flat that is a screen, that is a camera.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah I always think of it as a person. I think that's why, I often look at it, so I'm like having a conversation with you, but I like want them to join in, yeah but they never talk back. We could do it we could.
Speaker 1:We could record it once live from a studio audience.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's my, that's my dream that would be awesome, wouldn't it? I'd love to do that yeah it's somewhere like, somewhere, somewhere small, like I don't know the waterfront or something, but not for waterfront, but like upstairs waterfront size.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like that sort of size room with chairs obviously.
Speaker 1:That holds 200.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's too many.
Speaker 1:That's too many, oh, 200 standing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, seated 200 seated.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it would be no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Do you know what would be cool to do? What's that? Instead of doing that you know it has. I can't remember what the pub is called now. It's near St Andrew's Car Park and you've got the Underbelly and it's like I know they do like.
Speaker 1:The Ramsey Wells.
Speaker 2:Yes, but what's the underbit called the Underbelly? It's called yeah, yeah, that'd be cool, wonder if they'll I used to know the manager of the Romsey Wells. I think I knew a couple of people that used to work at the Romsey Wells because I used to perform there quite a lot yeah, we did. Yeah, oh you, yeah, you we did. Yeah, you've played. You've played the Romsey Wells. I have played the Romsey Wells. Yeah, you've played the Romsey Wells, yeah anyway, your next, actually Gaelic.
Speaker 1:It is a Gaelic word, banshee, and it means woman of the fairy mound. Fairy mound, yeah, the Banshee whale, or the Banshee's whale, foretells death in certain households.
Speaker 2:Oh scream.
Speaker 1:Because that's what Banshee does she screams. I wouldn't have called it a whale. Yeah. How would she, how does she manifest herself so she can appear as an old crone, yeah, or an ethereal young woman Quite often. Do you know which one I'd pick?
Speaker 2:Go on, Definitely the ethereal young woman. Why would you want to be an old hag?
Speaker 1:Well, quite often the old hag is her original, is her true form, oh gee, yeah. But then she'll create herself as a young, beautiful woman to lure ship, uh, ships, sailors, very siren like they are. She is quite like a siren yeah, they're very siren like, yes, but also she will foretell. She will foretell the death in households. So she is like a messenger of death. Yeah, originally a mournful harbinger.
Speaker 2:It's because she takes them. So she's like, oh, someone's going to die in this house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, originally she was a mournful harbinger, but modern media has shifted the banshee into a sinister spectre of horror and fantasy, and it's actually got EG supernatural.
Speaker 2:Chachupati knows yes, um well, I'm gonna come in with the kraken. Oh, because how could I not exactly? I'm assuming you didn't pick the kraken. I didn't pick the kraken, cool. So if you don't know what kraken is, basically it's a massive octopus and it's a rum, a very nice one. Orange wedge on the side, coke ice, bam. Uh, the kraken was said to dwell off the coast of norway, so I've gone.
Speaker 2:I went nordic, I guess yes and was the king of the all the sea creatures. No other aquatic beast could beat the same tremendous size, stature, strength or ferocity. The kraken is also featured in greek mythology as well. It's capable of crushing ships, vessels, with its giant tentacles and powerful suckers. This squid-like creature would drag its prey all the way down to the bottom of the ocean, where it would slowly feast in complete isolation and darkness. When it wasn't eating sailors, fishermen and their boats, it would fill its belly with shoals of fish, schools of fish. Sorry, don't know where I got that from. The Kraken would? I don't know where I got that from? Uh, the kraken would? I don't know why I read that? Um, the kraken would belch and regurgitate old food, luring other sea creatures to approach what a crazy beast the kraken is.
Speaker 1:Well, it's cracking kraken.
Speaker 2:The kraken is cracking as kraken yeah, kraken wins. We've, we've. Yeah, I mean you Banshee is kind of Siren is luring people from the sea. So going along that side of things, I guess they're not ever going to meet, because one's on sea, one's on land.
Speaker 1:I guess yeah, but the Kraken's going to win that. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe not out of water.
Speaker 1:Do you think a Banshee's whale could? So the kraken is essentially a bloody big octopus, isn't it? Yes, essentially that's what it is, and it does have a beak, does a?
Speaker 2:kraken have a beak? I don't think it has a beak. Let me just look at the picture. No, no, sir, no beak here, no.
Speaker 1:So, with it being an octopus, it's not theoretically a mammal. No, sir, no beak here, no, so it wouldn't. So, with it being an octopus, it's not theoretically a mammal. Therefore, it does breathe underwater. Yeah, so it doesn't breathe oxygen?
Speaker 2:Well, it does breathe oxygen, but through the water, but not in the conventional sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay, yeah, I think if the banshee went for a swim, she did she did, she did, she did. She did yeah. So I think in that, in that if, rather than say look at that, well, they would never meet, let's say if they were in, yeah, she would win, the Kraken would win, the Kraken would win, the Kraken would win, yeah, the Kraken would win.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yeah, I once wanted to get a Kraken tattoo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did you? Yeah, oh, like over my elbow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but one elbows hurt.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Two doesn't go with my witchy thing.
Speaker 1:It doesn't, and also it could be to have a.
Speaker 2:I think it would be misconstrued. I think it.
Speaker 1:I'm already picturing images of Kraken tattoos and, to be honest, I think they look a bit messy and masculine and masculine, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I thought. I want to keep my tattoos feminine Not to say that you can't have a Kraken tattoo if you're a lady, or feminine facing but I personally think they wouldn't suit my theme that I've got going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, exactly. Of nature and water Wouldn't me, though I'm quite.
Speaker 2:You are very.
Speaker 1:Watery.
Speaker 2:Watery, I reckon you could get a Kraken.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's your next tattoo, just putting it on there.
Speaker 1:Well, no, my next tattoo is going to be your add-on. You're not getting another.
Speaker 2:You're not getting a new one.
Speaker 1:You're getting an additional. No, I'm getting one. Yeah, I thought it was going to be connected to you.
Speaker 2:Well, it might be eventually. Um, no, mine's going to be the icelandic compass, which again is seafaring.
Speaker 1:It's still sea and and it's going to be the uh, an orca nice within it, so yeah, nice, we love an orca love an orca killer whale. Uh, let's go. My next one I now. This particular mythical creature has been portrayed in many, many different forms, and this is a jinn oh, I'm so mad you picked a jinn.
Speaker 2:Oh, because I love them so much and I and I the fact that I didn't think of it. They're like, they feature in like one of my favorite books as a kid as well I love a gin oh, that's so good. Can you please explain to people?
Speaker 1:were you, were you gonna choose gin?
Speaker 2:no, no, I haven't got a gin in this book, but I'm, I'm, I please, just yeah, please do your thing, because I love them, they're great.
Speaker 1:Well, gins is actually, it's arabian yeah, they're essentially a genie, yeah essentially is, is a genie, and they live in a parallel reality.
Speaker 1:Uh, they live with complete autonomy and diverse agendas. So some are benevolent, some are kind, so they are their own, they're their own race, they're their own, you know, and they're amazing. They are tricksters, wish granters, theygranters. The whole genie in the lamp thing was essentially a djinn. Moroccan lore sees travellers leave knives outside tents to repel invisible djinn as well. They're shapeshifters. They can turn into snakes, humans, they can become invisible. They can possess people, they can grant power, they can manipulate the wind, fire. Yeah, but they are bound by complex codes of honor yes, they are yeah which fascinates me.
Speaker 2:So a book that I read. It was fiction. There was a jinn attached to someone not possessed, but think of it in a sense of it was a bit like venom yeah like part of him yeah um, and they had like this kind of conflict going and it was interesting to me from a psychological point of view. That was like you know, when you have an inner conflict yeah, kind of like the angel and the devil on your shoulder, yes, situation.
Speaker 2:And I think jinn derived from that feeling of having that inner conflict and having that, I guess, that possessive creature on you that's that's saying, oh, you should do some bad things or you should be doing some good things. Perhaps you know, and I love the fact that jinn is so, uh, human, because they they're in so many different ways. They can be bad, they can be good, they can be evil, chaotic good, chaotic evil, you know they're such complex characters so complex and I just they're such a good character to have in in fiction and I love them so much.
Speaker 2:What culture do they?
Speaker 1:they're arabian. They're arabian, yeah, they're just awesome and I just yeah so they so yeah, I mean, I've seen, I know reference supernatural a couple of times, but there's gin in supernatural yeah, there's there's gin in uhnatural.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's gin in the Witcher, the story, the Last Wish. The first story of the Witcher was the gin, the gin in the bottle. I think Dandelion finds it. So you've got. I'm trying to think what else gins have been in. They have been in quite American Gods. They're in that. I don't know if you've ever seen that. Dungeons and Dragons, of course, yeah, yeah Also Oblivion, the game Oblivion the game.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was waiting on the roller coaster ride. I was like I haven't seen one in there.
Speaker 1:The Elder Scrolls Jyn are in that as well. So they're so yeah.
Speaker 2:So I just Very cool with another UK beast and I'm going to go with the Loch Ness Monster. I couldn't not do the Loch Ness Monster, old Nessie, old Nessie, scottish origin, of course, and for our Scottish folks I'm going to say hi to Joe and Gareth.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Whilst we're here, hi guys, puts one in for you. Legend of the Loch Ness Monster dates all the way back to the 6th century, but wasn't until the 1930s that the myth really took off. So there's apparently been something Roman in there for quite a long time. 6th century is quite a bit, but only in recent culture have we actually started to think about the Loch.
Speaker 1:Ness.
Speaker 2:Monster, loch Ness Monster is featured in a lot of paraphernalia and souvenirs.
Speaker 1:It is a tourist attraction, isn't it?
Speaker 2:To this day, hordes of people visit the lock each year, hoping to catch a glimpse of one of the world's biggest mysteries. A man called Steve Felton, for instance, has spent the last 25 years searching for this beast. This book might be a little bit outdated, so it might be, you know, we might be getting on to 30, 40 years if he's still going strong.
Speaker 2:Uh, despite steve's efforts, the creature has never been caught. Uh, there have been more than 1 000 supposed sightings. However, hundreds of questionable photographs of protruding fins, eerie shadows and ripples have been captured over the years. So it's just, uh, a mystery. But a lot of people believe it's just a large whale. Well, well, I seem to have lived for centuries I, so there are a lot of eels yes and I want I really looking, yeah, like an eel. So I do wonder if it was.
Speaker 1:you know, somebody may have way back when may have eaten some mushrooms. You know seen an eel, got a little bit excited, yeah, and the story's gone from there.
Speaker 2:So who would win, the Loch Ness Monster or the?
Speaker 1:gin. I think the gin. I think the gin as well, I think the gin would win yeah.
Speaker 2:Which means we're 1-1 because we were well, we're 2-2 now 2-2.
Speaker 1:2-2.
Speaker 2:But we are running out of time to do any more.
Speaker 1:However, out of all of them, who would win? Oh, you mean like a battle royale?
Speaker 2:The battle. So I think Kraken would beat Old Nessie because King of the Sea.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I'm now. I think Kraken might be my strongest one. I don't know, though, because a Kraken and a Hippogriff together is kind of like.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I is kind of like? Do you know what I think the djinn would win? The djinn would win.
Speaker 2:I think the djinn would win everything, because but they're bound by by an honour, by honours, yeah, but which?
Speaker 1:doesn't always. It's their versatility, because of the way that they could adapt to certain situations. That is true so even, like with the hippogriff, a djinn can fly.
Speaker 2:A djinn could probably swim as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the djinn would win overall. I think the djinn is the most powerful. A djinn immortal as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the immortality for me then, I mean Medusa's immortal, but Would Could, Okay, Medusa versus djinn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, djinn.
Speaker 2:Would be djinn, wouldn't it? Yeah, jinn jinn does win all yeah jinn would win against the green man.
Speaker 1:That's probably the weakest one let's be honest, yeah, um, he's like why did I even tip up? Yeah, why am I here?
Speaker 2:I'm just gonna put my face on a tree and watch from above or below or mid, um, yeah, okay. Well, I hope you enjoyed that episode of, uh, fantastic beasts. We should call it that Fantastic Beasts, fantastic Beasts, and not where to find them, because they are mythical. However, I do like to believe that the Green man is a thing.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Is a thing. Well, I hope you've enjoyed this episode and enjoyed our life update. It's been a pleasure.
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