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Analogue vs Digital: A Debate on Technology's Evolution - Part One
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Davey and Hannah delve into the generational differences between analogue and digital technology through the lens of a father and daughter. The duo makes a surprise announcement about their podcast and how they are progressing to the next step.
• Comparing analogue watches with digital smartwatches
• Davey shares his photography darkroom experiences from school
• Hannah favours digital photography while Davey appreciates analogue's artistry
• Debating vinyl records versus digital streaming services
• Discussing the evolution from landline telephones to mobile phones
• Examining the transformation from bulky analogue TVs to sleek digital displays
• Reminiscing about technological changes and their impact on daily life
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Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad. Bonus Daughter a special father-daughter podcast with me Hannah and me, davie, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories within our ever-changing and complex world, Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view and influences throughout the decades or you could choose one by contacting us via email, instagram, facebook or TikTok links in bio.
Speaker 2:Welcome to another episode of Boonestad Boonestwater Today. I don't know where that accent came from. What was that? I don't know. I just felt like jazzing it up you know yeah okay, people are so used to me saying that that I feel like I just needed to add a bit of flavor.
Speaker 1:A flavor.
Speaker 2:Flavor, flavor.
Speaker 1:A little taste A little taste Today.
Speaker 2:Today we're going to do analogue versus digital, going back to our roots a little bit with the whole generational differences. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've got a few other episodes coming up where we're kind of facing things off against each other to see which one is better, and I thought this was this was actually a really good starting one. Bringing it back, Bringing it back a little bit Because I suppose a lot of my suppose I'll be in the digit, in the analog bit, and I suppose you you weren't really had a lot to do with the analog side of things. You're more digital, I am more digital, yeah so we're gonna.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've got 25 things here, but so I don't. I don't know if we're actually gonna get through them all you can skip a few that are a bit boring, yeah, so some, some we might talk about longer than others. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think that's fairly yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just see how we go, because, yeah, you never will it be a two-parter, who knows. Who knows who knows with us, because we plan things so well.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, we avidly plan our episodes to the letter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and yeah, we go a bit to that plan every single time.
Speaker 2:Every single time. We never go off piste. No tangents, no rollercoaster talk.
Speaker 1:No, never anything. We're one minute 28 in. Just for now, though.
Speaker 2:So, but before we do get onto that, we have some exciting news for our listeners. We do, but a little bit. It's a little bit bittersweet. Today I'm feeling a little bit sad, but happy. So BDBd podcast is actually moving studios.
Speaker 1:Uh, we this is our last time of ever recording episodes within the studio, so I know it's quite sad.
Speaker 2:Actually it's like oh, this has been our home for a year and a half a year and a half we've been doing it in here in here. Um, so it's, it's, it's a shared studio, shared studio space, space that we have the absolute honour of using and very grateful to use. But we are now moving on to Greener Pastures and we're moving to our home studio.
Speaker 1:Yes, so yeah, we've acquired some equipment. We have acquired some equipment. We've well say we've acquired some equipment. Barkley Card has acquired some equipment.
Speaker 2:You have acquired some equipment and I've acquired some other things to help equipment and I've acquired some other things to help with the studio makeup side. So yeah, you're the equipment man, I'm the staging lady.
Speaker 1:It just gives us a little bit more freedom as well doesn't it, it does. It gives us more flexibility with time.
Speaker 2:We don't have to book in a slot anymore and the equipment. We know it's going to be how we left it, which is no disrespect to any other users in the studio. It is just you are used to your setup. They have their own setup.
Speaker 1:It just takes a few minutes. It's one of them things. Yeah, it just takes a few minutes every time we come in, set the level, set the sound and set everything up Exactly. So this way we can just keep it as it is all the levels and everything, and it's just plug, play, go, Plug and play and go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, be easier. Yeah, that's not me. Yeah, and currently we know we don't get paid for this podcast. We just, we just do this for the kindness of our own hearts, for our listeners and to, um, just have an excuse to hang out, really, as we've always said.
Speaker 1:So I did say to you the other day should we start a patreon, didn't I?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah. If anyone has any knowledge about starting a patreon, or if anyone thinks that that would be a good idea for us, um, please let us know, because we we do pour our heart and soul into this and we absolutely have no profit. Yeah, and my Barclay card's taken quite a brunt recently, I suppose, yeah, so.
Speaker 1:But not just mine. You've contributed to quite a bit as well.
Speaker 2:I contribute a little bit of time in the graphic side of things and I contribute to. Yeah, I will be contributing more to the studio side because it will actually be my house. Yeah, exactly, yeah, you contribute on the on the finance side, you finance the thing um. I am here with the I don't know the creativity side, the creativity side, we'll go with that, yeah, so, yeah, it's, it's always been a joint effort, this podcast, and uh, yeah, we just want, um, we just want a bit more flexibility yeah, exactly a bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a bit more freedom, a bit more flexibility and yeah, it's gonna be good I can't wait great you. You were brilliant. The other day, hannah was uh was sending me photographs of how she was setting the room up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it looked really good.
Speaker 1:She did this whole little introduction thing and then afterwards went. I don't know why I did that, father.
Speaker 2:That will never see the light of day, by the way. That is staying between us. Just me, just like absolutely messing about with that that was fun. That was funny. It did make me laugh. Absolutely messing about with that, yeah, that was fun. That was funny. It did make me laugh. I thought so that is what I aim to please, you do, and you do.
Speaker 1:You do, you do, please me all the time. You're a very good girl Nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, any life updates before we start this episode? Not really, because we had a little bit of a technical issue. We did, so we are, which is another reason of moving to our home studio is that we're going to have, hopefully, fingers crossed less technical difficulties that we have with the equipment here. That was quite sad.
Speaker 1:That was that was so sad To be honest, that was partly my fault, because I just naturally assumed everything was set up and working and when I put the SD card in it didn't record. So we did three episodes and normally we test each episode.
Speaker 2:We test each one and we just went for it didn't record, so we lost. We did three up and we normally we test, we test each one and we just went for it didn't we?
Speaker 1:it was we were. We're on a, we're on a high a buzz yeah we just got them all done, but and we, yeah, we wasted four hours of basically four hours of work and they all come out sounding like daleks yeah, um if anyone doesn't know what dalek is, it's a doctor who reference um of these little yeah robotic creatures um, so that that was kind of what really prompted it, wasn't it? Yeah, it was like yeah I think you'd had enough yeah, I think you're just like, I'll bugger it.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna buy our own stuff now and just do it because we're just yeah yeah we've had a couple of technical difficulties and again, not not a reflection on the studio at all no, it was my own fault for not not yeah thinking when I put the the sd card formatting it that people would have changed it, because people obviously use this studio before us. Exactly. Yeah, it's my own fault.
Speaker 2:Lesson learnt yeah, it's my own fault, so shall we crack on.
Speaker 1:Shall we crack on with the episode Analog versus digital.
Speaker 2:Let's go.
Speaker 1:Yes, so the first one I've got is clocks and watches, Because of course, you've got analogue clocks with your hand going around.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know why I'm doing that with my finger.
Speaker 2:No, and then of course you've got a digital watch.
Speaker 1:Have you ever had an analogue watch?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You have.
Speaker 2:I was bought actually a couple of analogue watches from boyfriends. Mitchell bought me my last analogue watch as well, just because it looked nice on my wrist. I like having something on my left wrist, uh, a leather bound thing, because I'm a skin picker, so I like to have that to stop me from picking my skin, uh, particularly if I'm anxious. Not, I've grown out of it now, but I used to be a lot worse, yeah, um. So yeah, I did have an analog watch, but, um, with we're both sitting here with apple watches now I know that's what I've just kind of now.
Speaker 1:I I'm not really a big fan of watches in general quite.
Speaker 2:No, you were quite against it, weren't you?
Speaker 1:I don't like watches. The reason being is because if I've got a watch on, I feel that I'm always checking the time, whereas, yeah, it's a weird thing, but I don't really like wearing a watch. But I must admit I do have an Apple Watch now because I've got your mum's hand-me-down.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I had mum's first hand-me-down because you rejected the hand-me-down, and then I have recently upgraded my watch.
Speaker 1:The reason why I rejected it is because it kept telling me to do things.
Speaker 2:Yes, and instead of maybe Stand up, go for a walk. Instead of father looking into his settings and maybe stopping that, he was just like no, I'm not going to have this Typical boomer attitude, by the way, Gen.
Speaker 1:X.
Speaker 2:I know you're Gen X, but that was boomer attitude right there.
Speaker 1:Well, it was it was like telling me to do stuff. It's like oh, you haven't stood up in 30 seconds. Get up, you lazy git. That's what it felt like.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you just don't like being attacked, do you? No, it was, you're being attacked by your own watch. Yeah See, I personally, I don't think I could live without the Apple Watch. There is one particular feature that I'm sure you can agree with me on.
Speaker 1:Go on then.
Speaker 2:That you probably use more than the actual watch itself. What's? That it has a brilliant feature Apple iPhones. Find my phone. It plays a ding. Yes, and you're suddenly like where is my phone? Oh, I don't know where it is. Ah, yes, it's over there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I must admit.
Speaker 2:It's such a good feature. It's the feature of the of the apple watch. At least once a day do I use that at least once a day, I'm just gonna put it out there.
Speaker 2:Whoever designed that. I owe you a drink. I owe you many drinks. I owe you, uh, I owe you my life. Yeah, it's so handy. It's so handy because you know what I find now. I don't even look for my phone, I just play the time and you know what? It might just be two seconds away from me as well, it might just literally be in hand's, but I still use it just for that peace of mind.
Speaker 2:And do you know what? I'll put it in my bag sometimes and I'll run out the door and I'll be like I wonder if my phone's with me. Oh, I can hear it dinging, so it's in my bag at least.
Speaker 1:It's funny when your mum does it as well. I can hear your mum walking around upstairs beep, beep, beep. It's like, oh, she's lost her phone. It's a good function, yeah.
Speaker 2:The Apple Watch also is good for anyone that's fitness-based, so you can record all of your exercises on it as well, which I absolutely love. Obviously, an analog watch wouldn't have done that and equally, my watch tells me if I'm overdoing it.
Speaker 1:Does it?
Speaker 2:As in. It will tell me if I'm too fatigued and Hannah slow you down Bo Slow you down Bo yeah. So that's also good. Also tells me if my heart rate has dropped. It tells me a lot of medical things that I need to know. So, yeah, sorry, analog is out and digital is in for me.
Speaker 1:Right, okay, so when you actually Thoughts and feelings? So I prefer the aesthetics of an analog watch. I think they look nicer, but I do think digital is more practical, especially with the like of smart watches.
Speaker 2:There's more to it. You can do much more. It's not just the time, it's the same as a phone, really, I was just about to say the same thing. Actually, your phone is no longer just for calls anymore.
Speaker 1:No, exactly Same as your watch. I'll be honest. One of the things I do like about the do like about the apple watch, though, is when you get a message. And you get a message and you can just quickly look at it and just see yeah, do I need to respond? Do I need to respond now?
Speaker 2:no, it's father asking me an inane question. No, I can probably not message him until tonight, when I have time to talk to him for 20 minutes on the phone about it when do I ever ask you an inane question?
Speaker 2:all the time do I also, you're one of these people that you won't text me, you'll just call. I'm like right, either someone is dying or this is one of those random, inane questions that probably could have been a text message. It's one of those things that it could have been an email at work okay, okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 1:so the other, the other day, the other day we were texting each other were and then you rang me and you said the immortal words it was easier to call you. It was there, you go it was in that instance there you go.
Speaker 2:Because I needed to show you something via a call.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:A FaceTime call.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:It was like saying that I needed a Teams meeting to show you something visually.
Speaker 1:Do you know what that Teams meeting sound?
Speaker 2:that haunts me absolutely I can't even think how it goes now for some reason in my head, like I can't even picture the melody the chill just goes up my back when I hear that.
Speaker 1:But yes, I think digital is actually. I do think digital wins. I do think digital wins.
Speaker 2:I do think digital wins, but analogue is more aesthetically pleasing and I'm way more happy with that, but also, I think the analogue is well, it's craftsmanship-wise as well.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure, they're so intricate. Oh yeah, you know the way that people used to watch make.
Speaker 2:And like big-time watches. Yeah, they are. What are they called? When you buy something and it increases in value? Sorry, what's it called? When, like, like, if you buy a car, it decreases in value?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah but watch. Some of them retain their value and they get more, yeah, get more, yeah, they're worth more.
Speaker 2:Kind of like Rolexes and stuff like that, like big ones, I can't remember.
Speaker 1:I must admit I'm not very good at it. Tag watches I must admit some of the Tag Her.
Speaker 2:Oh, tag Her. Is it Tag Her? I just thought they were called Tag, tagger, tagger.
Speaker 1:Tagger.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I don't know. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:I think they're Swiss. I think Switzerland's very big for chronologue watches.
Speaker 2:They're very Swiss yeah, some watches to be kept in a box and not worn like a lot of things.
Speaker 1:But they aren't just the functionality, they're also a status symbol?
Speaker 2:I think very much so it makes me think of Doctor Strange.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:When he puts his hands through the car and obviously he's a surgeon, so he loses his hands and his watch is cracked and he keeps it. It's the only thing he keeps at the monk. Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1:Marvel, yeah, yeah, sorry, marvel, yeah. So I think, yeah, digital wins. Digital wins for functionality and accuracy, but analog wins for craftsmanship and aesthetics. Yeah, go with that.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1:Photography.
Speaker 2:Oh, I will be honest. Photography oh, I will be honest. The only, I guess, experience I have of analog photography is the little disposable cameras you used to get at weddings when I was 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But now everything is on iPhones, digital cameras and the quality has definitely improved with the digital cameras, as well. Definitely, the quality has definitely improved with the digital cameras as well.
Speaker 1:Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2:They're not as fuzzy, but I do kind of like the retroness of a Polaroid slash developing film. I think that's a really fun art piece. It's arty not practical.
Speaker 1:I know a little bit about this. You do Because I did photography. I did photography at school. Now, the photography that I did, I had a camera, I had a film, I had a film. I'd go around take photographs and then I would go and develop the film in a dark room and then develop each picture. You know we're talking developing fixer, hanging them up on using pegs to dry the picture.
Speaker 1:The whole enchilada. I did all of that, could never do color. All my pictures were black and white. Cool, and yeah, I whole entire. I did all of that, could never do color. All my pictures were black and white cool and yeah, I did.
Speaker 2:Uh, I got a B in that, actually a B. I got a B in photography. Is this the equivalent of a GCSE or?
Speaker 1:this was it. This was GCSE, not a level, not a level, not a level, no, um, because it was quite expensive. I couldn't, yeah to really. Gcse sorry yeah, oh, you were GCSE. I think I. Yeah, I think GCSEs came in two years before me, oh okay, it was O-levels prior to that.
Speaker 2:Oh, so mum wouldn't have done no GCSE, but you would. Is that correct?
Speaker 1:I think your mum might have been her first year of GCSE. Oh, okay, I think she might have been the first one.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, Fact check. So we'll do three years. We'll get a fact check on that one.
Speaker 1:We'll get a fact check yeah we'll get a fact check on that one. Yeah, so I used to. Yeah, I got a B in that, so I did. I loved it.
Speaker 2:Well done on the B, by the way.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much. It's such because instant, but with when you develop your own film and you do it all yourself and you see the image start while you're mixing in the developer. That must be quite, and you see that image starting to appear, then you put it in the fixer and then you hang it up and I'll tell you a little story where I this is how I got my b, and it was a complete and utter accident and a fluke oh right, I love an accident a fluke and so I did a.
Speaker 1:I did a whole uh project with my brother and what I did is I didn't have a flash on my camera and the lighting in our house was absolutely shocking. So what I thought I'd do, I thought oh, I know what. I keep the exposure open, it will let more light in and it will then look like a normal photograph. So I had my brother in lots of different poses all around, all around the house doing everything. They're very kind of portraiting because he was a child.
Speaker 2:There's quite a bit of an age gap there was five.
Speaker 1:There was five years difference, so I think he was. So if, when I was doing it, he would have been 10, 11.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he would have been like cute Maybe. Yeah, family pictures, exactly.
Speaker 1:So I had him sitting, I had him doing just normal things around the house, yeah, and it was like off the cuff kind of portraits.
Speaker 2:Did he agree to this? By the way, he did agree to it. It sounds like a sibling thing like force your little brother to do something weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no no, no, he was. No, he was up, for I've still got the photographs I've still got them all and it was just like him watching telly just sitting there and it'd be like a candid shot, just you know.
Speaker 2:So it wasn't actually it was staged, but not staged, but not staged, it was natural.
Speaker 1:Yeah but what I actually did is because I left the exposure open too oh too much. When I developed it, they weren't overexposed oh no ridiculously overexposed. But what it did is it actually gave parts of his eyes, parts of his face, like his eyes, his mouth, his nose were almost very dark and then it just kind of then his face kind of blended into the background oh, okay it came up with this really weird effect like Like almost like horror style Kind of, but it was so.
Speaker 1:It kind of changed the focus of the project and when I presented it to, I thought I've balled this up, this looks awful. I was like, what have I done? This is not what I wanted to do. But when I actually presented it to the teachers I was like and he was like this is amazing, how did you get that effect?
Speaker 2:Oh, there you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he said, how did you do that? And I was just like I didn't use a flash overexposed and he was like, did you mean to do that?
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, I think, even if you'd said no but went with it anyway, I don't even think that would have affected your grade, because it was like, look, I've done something wrong, but actually I really like the effect it produced and that could have been a really nice, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It just worked. It was a complete and utter accident. It was not what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2:I think when people do develop their own pictures, there's probably something so satisfying about seeing something come to life. But with digital side you would have already known that you've done something wrong pre-developing, and I imagine the cost of then developing those I mean, you did it with the school you you probably had no cost associated with that. But I imagine when people do go and develop them, I think oh, it's expensive.
Speaker 1:I mean, I would imagine now, if you think about well, you probably have to hire a dark room, I'm assuming yeah, they're not, they're not easy to come by, would be my assumption I mean it's, our dark room was just a cupboard, basically with double door cupboard, that's how it was at school there was definitely a dark room at school and, and if you were part of a photography club, you could use it.
Speaker 2:I wasn't um, as it wasn't something that interested me. Yeah, I do remember there being a dark room and it was essentially a cupboard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was, I just it and it does it when it yeah, I think digital it's what I had to say, I think with when you're taking photographs on an ip or on a digital camera. Now, unless you're really into it, because I've got some friends who I work with who do really do a lot of wildlife photography and I mean the images and the richness of the colours that they're doing on the digital is just absolutely outstanding and awesome. But there is just something about doing the whole process from start to finish by hand.
Speaker 2:That must be so cool. Yeah, I think in this day and age as well, people want pictures, and they want pictures quickly.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Particularly when you get married life events point shoot done. And people obviously then post it on Instagram put their films on or yada, yada, yada. So yeah, I think there's definitely room for quickness and ease of people having life events. It's not a viable option.
Speaker 1:But also I think, when you actually develop the photographs and you've got the actual picture itself, it makes that picture mean more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess it does, because you've put your heart and soul into developing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but also when you did you take it down Snappy Snaps or whatever to get your photographs developed.
Speaker 2:You can still do it at Boots. You can still get.
Speaker 1:I think it was called True Print as well. You used to post them off to.
Speaker 2:I have actually got our wedding photos in the 6x4 printed format. I do actually have them printed out in an album that I created.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:But more I don't know, just more to look through. You can look through them on your phone, yes, and they're more easily accessible, but it is nice having that keepsake as well so from that point of view. So, I did get them printed, but they were a digital image that I got printed.
Speaker 1:Actually, it's just reminded me of something as well. Go on, because, of course, when you've actually got the physical photographs, you could argue they last longer now I've not argued, they last.
Speaker 1:I'm saying that wrong. Now. Days gone is a is a game. Okay, yeah, it's a zombie game. It's set in the apocalypse, you know. It's set, uh, after the apocalypse, zombies taking over a world. It's set in oregon and this guy called deacon he's riding around anyway. There's one dialogue bit in that where he talks about pictures stored on the cloud and on the phones and he said when the apocalypse happened, he pulls up because he says to Captain Curry. He says, oh, have you got any pictures of your wife? And he said I've got this one. He said this is the only one I've got. He said, of course, because when the apocalypse happened, everything that I had stored on my phone, everything that I had stored in the cloud, all those hundreds of pictures of me, my wife and my family, have all gone. This is all I've got left.
Speaker 2:So in an instant, there's still room for that, I guess, if a catastrophe like that ever happened, or if the cloud went down or they started paying people to use the cloud a bit more, I mean they've already started, or they start paying people to use the cloud a bit more. I mean, they've already started. When you go over a certain gigabyte, they start charging you. Is it like 89 pence a month, I pay, or something? Yeah, something like that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you lose all that. It's all gone, but the actual physical pictures, well, again you could also argue, though, from the other side of it, playing devil's advocate, for the other argument is that those pictures could get lost.
Speaker 2:Yes, damaged, they could get ruined yeah.
Speaker 1:Damaged and you've lost it. Yeah, you've then lost that photograph.
Speaker 2:So basically, what we're saying is have both. Essentially, yeah, have a backup.
Speaker 1:Have a backup, have a backup on a backup, have a couple of USBs, yeah. So what do you prefer? Do you think analogue or digital? On photography, Hannah what do you think?
Speaker 2:Digital for me just because, it's what I know, it's what I grew up with and it's instant.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I can just post it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know I don't. I do do some arty stuff, but again, that arty stuff is then posted on digital platforms. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:So I'm not on a physical one. So, yeah, I physical one. Yeah, yeah, um, I guess I would always go with digital. Okay, I do you know what I'm gonna?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go firmly down the middle on this one. Oh, he's on the fence I'm on the fence.
Speaker 1:I'm really on the fence on this one because I can see the argument on both sides dems weren't the rules, but okay, all right.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have a fence all right, you'll go digital.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what I think for aesthetics and also just for the individual picture itself. That means more. I'll go analogue, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:There, you go, there, we go there you go. Generational difference. Let's go on to music playback. We've touched on this before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you know what I'm thinking? This episode is going to be a do-parter.
Speaker 2:Oh, dear me.
Speaker 1:Because we're 20 minutes in already. Here we go.
Speaker 2:We can rattle through some of the other ones. Yeah, music is obviously going to be a massive topic for us. I didn't grow up with vinyl, I grew up with. Cd is probably the closest thing, and I know that's technically digital, um, although in a physical format, which is an interesting take, I think it's. It is digital, it's a digital disc, but on a physical what do you mean?
Speaker 1:cd?
Speaker 2:yeah yeah, laser it's, it's yeah, it's laser, and I will never forget my favorite disc being scratched and not being able to play it on the digital side. You don't have that problem. You don't have skipping. You don't have any. Well, unless you've got really rubbish bluetooth in your car, like you do, yeah, there's like. There's no actual skipping, authenticity of the skipping of a cd and rewinding a tape and setting a needle on a vinyl, like you don't have that side of things and everything now is digital compact.
Speaker 2:But on that front digital streaming does not get the same monetized value no, it doesn't, it does for artists it doesn't so I think we have a unique perspective on this that we're more likely to go on the I can already feel my blood boil yeah, yeah, so we won't get into it too much.
Speaker 2:Bloody napster yeah basically and and spotify and all of the all of them that don't pay enough for artists they don't pay anything to artists so let's 0.05 pence yeah, maybe let's put that aside yeah, okay and let's just go on quality yes, so nothing beats the sound of a vinyl in my opinion.
Speaker 1:I mean when I had loads of vinyl again, there was just something about a vinyl collection which, bizarrely enough, since the, since vinyls come back yes, it's now retro and they're really expensive yeah, yeah, I haven't bought any vinyl no, the all the vinyl that I've bought is for other people because they have record players.
Speaker 2:I don't even own a record do you know why?
Speaker 1:do you know why I haven't got a record player?
Speaker 2:go on, I think they look cheap they do, don't they like the newer, modern ones? Yeah, I don't think they've got the same quality as no ones?
Speaker 1:absolutely not. I mean the thing is as because, as you know, I used to dj as well. Right, then, so I had techniques, I had Technics 1210s with Concord, you know. Okay, that means sorry.
Speaker 2:Hannah, nothing to me, or probably most of our listeners, to be honest.
Speaker 1:So, but I mean, these things were built, these things were. These were metal, they were heavy, they were direct. Well, I had direct drives. You could either get a belt drive.
Speaker 1:It used to like that you see but direct drive was instant yeah, so that's me, that was the better so when you were djing, if you were belt driving, you kind of had to push it a little bit, you know, to kind of get it, get it to the right, to beat match Technics 12, they were spilt so well and you know. But now I look at these record players. I went to HMV the other day because I thought, you know, I might buy one. I looked at it and I thought that looks like a toy.
Speaker 2:I think they're built to look aesthetically pleasing, but not with the quality needed to play them.
Speaker 1:Plastic cheap. They just look awful, which is why I haven't. I mean, give me a Technics 1210, but I can't justify buying one. To be honest, then I'd yeah, but Can you still buy them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, you can. Yeah, you can still get them. Are they still used in the DJ world as well?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's another. It's all digital. That's another bone of To me. There's a real art to it a beat matching two vinyls. Now it's just like put USB in and away you go and it'll do it all for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very simplistic and I do apologise to every DJ out there, perhaps not giving credit to the ones that are at Tomorrowland who are actually mixing it on stage, but there's probably things that have made it easier, I think that's what you're saying. There's probably bugbears that you had with your setup that have now been rectified by the digital age.
Speaker 1:So you can kind of see.
Speaker 2:And it makes it more accessible for people to be able to use.
Speaker 1:But I think with music I mean I'd have something on vinyl, Then I'd probably go and buy it on tape, Then I'd probably bought it on CD when CDs came out.
Speaker 2:This I don't really understand as much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whereas now you can just stream it. It's just on Spotify.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go digital on this one, just because it's not the era I grew up in. And while I do think the sound of vinyl was nice and I've heard the sound of vinyl there's just something about that crackle as well.
Speaker 1:when you first put the needle on, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:But having something that's so accessible and so easy to my fingertips on my phone that I can listen to wherever I want. Yeah, plug it into my car, put it in my ears yeah, listen to it at home, on the way, on a train, on a plane like the. The accessibility of the digital age, unfortunately for me, has outruled any yeah cool sounding vinyl.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, so I'm gonna go firmly digital on this, okay, okay, you I. I just think for nostalgic reasons. Even though I don't own any vibe, well, I do still own vinyl. I've still got all my um white labels up in the loft.
Speaker 2:You know you do, they might be worth some. Yeah, I've got.
Speaker 1:Maybe that could pay for the new equipment that we yeah I've still got actually I've still got all that hard house up there. Oh yeah, I've got Madam Friction a white label. Madam Friction, sorry, I just remembered that. So.
Speaker 2:I think there's some people of your age group going what that's crazy. And I'm sitting here like okay, nah over my head, no worries.
Speaker 1:I think, out of all of them, I think I'm going to go vinyl. I'm going to go vinyl, even though I don't kind of Just for the sound and the nostalgia reason Just to be different, just to be different. So I'm going to go analog, you're going to go digital.
Speaker 2:Yes indeed.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Telephones, analog telephones just look like the worst, clunkiest things ever to me. The fact that you had a landline that had a wire, that the dial no how slow that looks, I just know I'm not I do.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm? This is one of the. This is one of the things I'll say. Yeah, analog is definitely not better, it's not good, is it?
Speaker 2:really, and the line was really crackly. Yeah, and now that we're on digital waves and digital air, the calls are so much clearer. I just, I just nah, it's such an improvement in the telephone world. Yeah, do we mention radio at all?
Speaker 1:oh, we have got radio. Yeah, radio's on there. We'll go back.
Speaker 2:I won't mention radio so I will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, the funny thing is, if you rang someone's house because you used to ring someone's house, right, because they only had landlines.
Speaker 2:We didn't have mobile phones, yeah, the funny thing about this is that you rang someone's house. Yeah, you didn't ring them, you rang their household. Anyone in their household could have picked that up yeah, it'll be, hi one person can use that phone at that one time exactly yeah, hi, it's hannah there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll just go and get her, or it'll be something like oh, hi, davy. Yeah, um, roger, can you go and get Hannah, and then she would stand in there and talk to you on your phone, so you'd talk to your mate's mum while you were yeah, and then which awkward, by the way yeah, exactly, and then also, and like the whole, everyone can hear your conversation because you have to stay in one space, I'm assuming the kitchen or the lounge, or where did you keep the phone so?
Speaker 1:it would kind of be in the land under the stairs or by the stairs, so not only did you have to harry potter it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you also had to. Yeah, it's just. I just don't get it every I'm sorry they've improved it so much everybody could hear your conversation. There were no private privacy with the landline like what if you wanted to, I don't know a little little funky phone time with your girlfriend, like what, like. Well, you know, I'm sure it happened. You're like, you know everyone's going to hear that conversation. All you lovely, like sweet nothings. You hang up. No, you hang up. No, you hang up. Even hanging up is not a thing that we do anymore.
Speaker 2:We don't physically hang the phone up anymore to end the call. Do you still say?
Speaker 1:do we still use the term hanging up, though? To end the call? Do you still say do we still use the term hanging up though? Yeah, do you hang up on me? Yeah, I suppose you do. Yeah, I use the tone even though it's actually just, I ended the call, ending call is probably what generation alpha beta are now going to say is end the call, but you still use the term hang up. Yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 2:Even though. I've never.
Speaker 1:Randomly Very weird, but the funny thing is as well is that I used to remember phone numbers off by heart.
Speaker 2:Oh what I know my own, I know my husband's and I know mum's. I don't even know yours, but I know it has like 7,000 zeros in it.
Speaker 1:613485 was my old home number from when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:I thought you were just about to tell all of our listeners your actual mobile phone number.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, no, no, that was really funny, that was call davey on 074. That sounded really like babe station then didn't it was like call davey on 07 500 how do you know what babe station is? How do I know what babe station is? Let's move on anyway. Yeah, so I will definitely say I'm definitely in the digital camp with phones on this one, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because the old Me too firmly.
Speaker 1:The thing is to be fair to the analogue phone.
Speaker 2:I think even the analogue phone was like To be fair to the analogue phone, but I think even the analogue phone was like I'm shit. It owned up to its troubles.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm going to change my analogue. Then you did kind of get the hands-free set that you could walk around a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and it did kind of yeah, that was a good step in the right direction.
Speaker 1:But now that we all have personal phones, oh, do you remember seeing like in period dramas even the phones before my time, where you would have the long stand with the oh yeah, with the ahoy ahoy, Ahoy ahoy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just ring the operator, do you?
Speaker 1:Yes, hello, could you get me to Luton 47652, please?
Speaker 2:I've only ever seen this in the Crown. I have not seen this in any other media of them using telephones in that sense, oh, please put me through to the West Wing. Oh, hello, west Wing. Hi Is Judith about.
Speaker 1:I don't know, judith Judith.
Speaker 2:Oh. Judith judith about I don't know, judith judith, oh, judith judith, he's a bit of a traitor among the west wing house. Yeah, don't mention him. Um yeah, so we're both on the digital front there I definitely, definitely digital on that one television oh, now christ.
Speaker 1:I mean the televisions. We used to have the old analog televisions I might have to ask a question because I'm not entirely sure what analog television is what kind of like the big old tellies that you used to get?
Speaker 2:are we talking about the actual television unit?
Speaker 1:the actual television unit itself because it had.
Speaker 2:I had that little one. Do you remember my room that had a video bit underneath?
Speaker 1:that's it, yeah, so is that analog?
Speaker 2:yeah, that'd be, that would have been analog yeah I do know what analog is and I can't believe we had spaces in our houses for them. Like thin-line TVs, I think are better than sliced bread.
Speaker 1:Do you know what? Honestly yeah.
Speaker 2:They take up way less room. Well, I mean, they're bigger in terms of like wall space, I suppose. Yeah, but they're not in terms of depth Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Like you don't now need to put your tv in the corner of a room because you haven't got all of the back end of the tv to worry about. Yeah, yeah, I will definitely say 100 that digital tvs are much better. Yeah, without a shadow of a doubt. Yeah, I just mean the analog ones look nostalgic and when I see one I'm like huh cool, but I cool. But I'm not like ha cool, I want one.
Speaker 1:For any of you watching in black and white, the black ball is situated behind the blue ball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Can you imagine having to explain colours on a TV? I can't imagine it. Actually, I just can't because I've never not known colour TV.
Speaker 1:I used to have a black and white TV.
Speaker 2:I've never not known colour TV. The I've never not known colour TV. The closest I've ever got to black and white TV is watching the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never watched. No, that's not true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you would have seen black and white. I've definitely seen black and white movies. Yeah, you've seen black and white movies, but I've not seen, but not for anyone to explain a snooker game. I used to love the Laurel and Hardy films Okay, brilliant.
Speaker 1:That's not stopping me Way out west and stuff like that. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. But yeah, I mean the televisions as well. I mean the televisions you get now the digital ones. You can just pick them up pretty much with one hand. I mean, we've got that one at the moment that looks like a picture when it's not a TV, your TV is pretty cool. And it looks nice. Yeah, it's huge as well.
Speaker 2:It's we. It's massive. I never forget the time that we got our current tv that we have. Yeah, I leave mitchell in charge of buying the tv and setting up the bt and stuff like that because it's his domain. But, like being an it man, I was like this is, this is your job, I'm not touching this yeah, I come home to this monstrosity of a tv and I was like mitchell, this is too big, we've got to take it back within a week.
Speaker 2:I was like eating humble pie, because I thought this is really good tv, yeah, and then we I think we paid end game on it. It was like what it like. I wanted to like watch something cinematic on it yeah oh, it looked amazing and I was like, oh, bloody hell, we've got to keep this monstrosity of tv. But now it doesn't even look that big now it doesn't like it doesn't look that big, but it was a massive difference from our previous TV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, when ours got delivered, I was at work and your mum just sent me a text and all it said was oh my God, Because obviously in the store, when you go into the store, it doesn't look. I mean, it looks big, but obviously you're in a big store, aren't you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So she just sent me this picture. Honestly, it just said, oh my God. Then she sent me this picture of where the telly was, and it wasn't even on the wall at this point. It was just kind of sitting on the floor and this thing was bigger than our sideboard. You couldn't even see the sideboard behind it. All you saw was this telly just dominating this front and even I thought shit, Shit, Christ, what have we done? That is a bit too. Now it's up, Now it's on the wall. I must admit it does actually look quite cool. I'm quite chuffed with it. I am quite chuffed with it.
Speaker 2:Well, as we predicted at the start of this episode, we're going to make this into a two-parter, because we've got plenty more to say about the Analog vs Digital, which I'm sure that you think. Oh, but you didn't say this and you didn't say that.
Speaker 1:Well, tune in next. We're only on number five and I did say there were 25 of them.
Speaker 2:We'll rattle through them a bit quicker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's just because the first ones that we saw we knew a little bit about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we knew more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we knew more yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool. So what I will say is we will see you next time and cue the outro for part two. Thanks for joining us on Bonus Dad, bonus Daughter the outro for part two. Thanks for joining us on Bonus Dad, bonus Daughter. Don't forget to follow us on all our socials and share the podcast with someone who'd love it. We are available on all streaming platforms. See you next time, bye-bye, outro Music.