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Exploring the Hidden Meanings of Dreams - Part one
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Have you ever wondered how sharing your personal struggles online could actually bring people together? Join us as Hannah opens up about her journey with undiagnosed chronic illness and the creation of her Instagram community, "painfully_me." It’s all about building a support network while finding the joy in cheering on marathon runners. Meanwhile, Davy takes a detour into mystery-solving territory, recounting his thrilling experience at a murder mystery night. Spoiler alert: his theories were more entertaining than the event’s climax!
Ever found yourself laughing at the irony of growing up? Our trip to Emo Fest, with its nostalgic playlist of Slipknot and Paramore, hit us with all the feels of our teenage dreams. A hilarious story about setting up a colossal TV with our buddy Steve, who was bribed with chips, brings a light-hearted twist to our adulting misadventures. And yes, "American Psycho" gets its moment in the spotlight—both as a movie and a book recommendation. Watch out for nosy neighbors as the privacy challenges of massive screens become all too real.
Lastly, we unravel the enigma of dreams, from lucid escapades to the bizarre narratives they weave. Have you ever found yourself waking up within a dream or puzzled by the symbolic chaos your mind conjures overnight? We share personal dream antics, delve into recurring annoyances like teeth falling out, and explore the possibilities of dream-inspired personal growth. Whether you're fascinated by false awakenings or the eerie reality of lucid dreaming, this episode promises to tickle your curiosity about the mysterious world of dreams.
Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad. Bonus Daughter a special father-daughter podcast with me Hannah and me, davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world, Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view and influences throughout the decades, or you could choose one by contacting us via email, Instagram, Facebook or TikTok Links in bio.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to another episode of Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter. It's actually been quite a while since we've done a recording. It's been ages, Absolutely it has.
Speaker 1:It has actually been ages.
Speaker 2:It's been actually a whole month.
Speaker 1:It has. Do you know? We've actually run out of episodes now as well. We are, we've caught up. This is fresh off the press.
Speaker 2:This is We've episodes now as well. We are fresh off the press. This is With ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's good, we've had a nice break. We thought we'd start this episode with a life update.
Speaker 1:We've got quite a few life updates actually, and I've actually got some for a change.
Speaker 2:Hey, I know, I know Up the life update. So what have you been up to, Hannah? Why did you say, oh, I've got a life update and then just swing it?
Speaker 1:I know, but I thought yeah, because my mind yeah, no, you go first.
Speaker 2:Oh, OK. Ok, you think. You think I won't be able to follow you.
Speaker 1:I don't think you'll, I don't think you'll be able to follow me. No, no, not after all the great stuff that I've been doing the past few weeks. Well, I appreciate out.
Speaker 2:Wow, Twice I know you have because I was with you on one of those, but I'll let you talk about that. So me life update I have been massively poorly recently for some reason. I've just been having a really bad flare up, so actually I haven't been out that much. So I got a new phone and I like to think that we're recording this now and I'm saying that I've got the iPhone 16 Pro right. But what if we listen back to this in 10 years' time and they're on the iPhone 57? Probably not. What iPhone?
Speaker 1:Oh, is that why you were having trouble trying to sign in earlier?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I haven't actually logged in to our BDBD account for a while, since my new phone. Well, because it's been so long since we've done a recording. So, yeah, I've got a new phone, got a new Instagram account, so I'm now racking up to four that I look after now.
Speaker 1:So that's fun, actually, just talk about your new Instagram account, because it's brilliant, thank you.
Speaker 2:My new Instagram account is basically for people like me who have a chronic illness but are undiagnosed, and I've been on my diagnostic journey now for four and a half years and it can be quite isolating, can be quite lonely. So I was just making an account to reach out to people that may or may not be in the same boat, a safe space to talk about kind of being undiagnosed and how that looks from a from perspective, and it's for, it's for everyone, but it's also for people more like sort of my age that are in a nine to five, still trying to battle their nine to five job, whilst also having a chronic illness. So I thought I'd be a bit more vulnerable and put myself out there, which is weird because it feels way more vulnerable than talking on this podcast, for some reason.
Speaker 1:I think it's because it's video.
Speaker 2:It's video, I think it's because it's video.
Speaker 2:I don't go into that much detail on the podcast about my illness, whereas I'm now it's literally on the internet for you to see and it and that's very vulnerable and what's it called? It is called painfully me, yes, uh, yes, it's painfully underscore, and then me with two e's because someone already took painfully me, um, how inconsiderate, you know, yeah, so, yeah, that's my new instagram account. And then also, I've just been, I've been a cheerleader, have you? Yeah, so I cheered on uh, 10k runners for wyndham 10k. Uh with, uh, with my friend ella, and we and I loved it so much that I then also, um, volunteered to cheer on people at the norwich half marathon. So I have been like, without the pom-poms, I've been cheering people on. Honestly, it's the most fulfilling thing I've ever done.
Speaker 1:It was so lovely I just had this image then of you flying through the air.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, like proper, proper cheerleading, yeah yeah, no, it's just me in my raincoat just going you're doing so well and yeah, it was, uh, it was really really good fun. I was just my hands really hurt from clapping and uh, yeah, but it was good very, very fulfilling role. I enjoyed it, but that's uh, other than that, I have been pretty poorly so, um, I'll, uh, I'll, hand it over to you so we went to a murder mystery night.
Speaker 1:Yes, you did, that was. It was well, it was brilliant, it was really really good if I, we, it wasn't me, it was you, no, no no, no.
Speaker 1:I went with your mum and anya and rob came along as well, and it was brilliant. It was really really good. If I we it wasn't me, it was you no, no, no, no. I went with your mum and Anya and Rob came along as well, and it was at. It was at Park Farm and we all sat around a table and the actors came in and they were acting out the murder, and then we had to try and figure out what was who the murderer was and I'll be honest, I think my theory was actually better than what the actual murder or how the murder actually happened. Oh really, oh yeah, yeah, I think my theory was much better, but there was one thing that happened on that night which was quite unnerving.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Did you see an?
Speaker 2:actual murder.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. Well, there could have been. There could have been one. So you know I'm allergic to fish.
Speaker 2:I there could have been one. So you know I'm allergic to fish.
Speaker 1:I am aware of this. Yes, so I have a fish allergy. So when we first got to the murder mystery evening, when we sat down, there was right in front of me a little poster which said or a little sign which said, fish allergy. Right, I thought, oh, here we go. And then, next to me, where your mum was sitting, because your mum is a pescatarian the irony the irony is, sitting next to the one who has a fish allergy is someone who can only eat fish, so that kind of as a me. So that was kind of quite weird. But every time one of the meals came out, one of the waitresses literally stood behind me the whole time watching me eat. It was the most unnerving experience I have ever encountered at a restaurant.
Speaker 2:It's funny because, although you even have this allergy, you don't even have an epi pen. So what was she gonna do?
Speaker 1:oh, I don't know call an ambulance quickly.
Speaker 2:She just wanted to be the first on the call.
Speaker 1:I don't like yo, she was on a walkie talkie the whole time as well. It was was almost like he's on bite three, he's on bite four. Okay, he's not swelling up, it's fine, he's going for bite five. It was really, and even.
Speaker 2:Rob was like Maybe it was a test, Maybe yeah.
Speaker 1:Even Rob was kind of like looking going. I know this is. I feel quite vulnerable here. Yeah, so vulnerable here. Yeah, so much so that when we went to see heretic which I'll come on to that in a little while went with rob and anya. We went to get something to eat beforehand and immediately the waiter said any allergies? I just went nope, nope, no allergies, nothing here, we're all good didn't want to be stared at I just didn't want to be.
Speaker 1:I get it, I really do get it. You know that. You know that restaurants do have to be careful in these types of situations. But it was just like almost like a spotlight on me and I did not like that at all. It was really weird. But yeah, we went to see Heretic at the Odeon.
Speaker 2:Oh, we went to Odeon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they've got the new seats.
Speaker 2:Did you like them? Yes, what were your thoughts, feelings, talking about?
Speaker 1:it. So like them, yes, feelings. So I have a couple of couple of things about the new seats. Gotcha right, they're amazing, okay, uh, I really like the fact that you can kind of recline back, yeah, and sit and then watch the screen yeah but there's a problem go on, and not in the actual seats themselves, but the way the seats are laid out yes, okay yeah, they're laid out in couples, yeah they are indeed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you get a middle?
Speaker 1:No, so obviously I sat with your mum and you can take the arm up, but you know me and I like to sometimes go to the cinema by myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just thinking there, thinking, right, if I actually came to the cinema by myself and I'm in this reclining chair and I get some random come and sit next to me, that's like a bit of an awkward situation isn't it keeping the arm down, aren't you? Oh yeah, I'm keeping the arm down.
Speaker 2:But I think what happens there is when there is one person on their own. It's quite annoying because as a couple you might get split up, so you might get the main like podium in between you rather than anything, so that can happen as well. Okay, you make a valid point, but but yeah, less seating but way more comfier oh, a lot comfier.
Speaker 1:Yeah, really, I really like bougie, bougie and they're wide seats too.
Speaker 2:They're wide, they can recline. Can they go up and down as well, or am I?
Speaker 1:no, no, I think they just well you kind of go down, don't you, as you rec? They just Well, you kind of go down don't you as you recline as you recline. As you recline, you kind of go into the seat.
Speaker 2:As well. You feel quite immersed because you can't see the people in front, because the barrier's in front and I'm quite short, but I can still see over it. Yeah, that's fine. So a 3D movie, because they make me feel quite sick sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, both you and your mum feel a bit uneasy with 3D films, don't you?
Speaker 2:I've actually noticed that when my husband is playing a first person shooter game as well, I get really bad motion sickness.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:If I'm in control of the character, fine. If I'm watching someone, God, that makes me feel so sick. Do we have hand-eye?
Speaker 1:coordination type thing.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's hand-eye. I think it's like a type of motion sickness.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because the things happening in front of me I'm so immersed in but nothing's. It's almost like car sickness, but the opposite way around, gotcha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so sometimes I I don't know just get really funny.
Speaker 1:It must be genetic because so we went to see Heretic and I immediately came out of that film and I texted you and I said you've got to watch this film.
Speaker 2:You did.
Speaker 1:Have you gone to see it? I would probably say it is the best film I've seen this year. That's incredible, and you know how many films I've seen and how much of a film buff I am. I would actually probably put that In the top 10 films.
Speaker 2:Top 10 films you've ever seen in your life. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm not going to spoil it. I'm not going to say anything, but just because of the subject matter.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I found the subject matter incredibly interesting. Okay, Because it's right up my street with the whole kind of well, I'll say it's kind of a bit like anti-religion.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we know about your anti-religion. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But it really makes sense of why people are anti-religion.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it kind of really Makes sense to you. Absolutely it makes sense, and it's probably one of the only films I've agreed with the bad guy. I've gone to a point.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say be careful there.
Speaker 1:Be careful To a point, because it gets a little bit silly later on down the line. So you're recommending Heretic to our listeners 100% recommending Heretic, and I actually think it's coming on streaming in a couple of weeks. Very, very good film. I'll have to cap it then.
Speaker 2:Very good film, so I've been recommended.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know you've recommended it to me and I still haven't seen it. American Psycho.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, the colleague at work has been like.
Speaker 2:You need to watch this Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have you not seen it?
Speaker 1:No, you've not seen it. No, you've got to read the book as well. Read the book. Read the book. Great book Brett Ellis, I think his name is.
Speaker 2:I'll put you on about it Well, because I said I was going on a date night and then he made a joke about the restaurant that's in American. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah and then he was like do you get the reference? And I was like no. I was like you need to watch this film, like you need to this weekend.
Speaker 1:It is brilliant, okay, such a good film.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it's on a streaming service somewhere.
Speaker 1:I might be able to oh of watching films Go on. So we bought a new telly?
Speaker 2:Yes, you have.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I'd really describe it as a telly More of. We bought a whole cinema. This thing's massive, it's big. How many inches? Again, it's in the late 60s, late 60s, I think. It's like 68. Oh, that's a good guess yeah, so we put it up on the wall. Say, we put it up on the wall I called an adult to come and put it on the wall.
Speaker 1:An adultier adult. Yeah yeah, I called a big adult to come and do it and Steve came over and put it up on the wall. Thanks, steve. I did buy him some chips as well, did you yeah. Woodbine's yeah, yeah, kongs is really good, kongs is amazing.
Speaker 2:What kind of chips? Like chip.
Speaker 1:Potatoes.
Speaker 2:No chip shop chips, or are they like kebab chips?
Speaker 1:Oh no, proper, yeah, yeah, yeah, proper, proper chips, okay. Sorry carry on. Yeah, and you talk about first person shooters. Now, of course, of course. Oh, my word.
Speaker 2:You're fully immersed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but there is something quite funny about it, because you know we've got the shutters in the window. Yes, I have to be quite conscious now I have to close the shutters, right, right. So a couple of kids who live at the house opposite, right as they were getting out of their car, their mum said what are you doing? And the little lad went just watching Sharon and Davies telly, so you can see it from the outside.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you're playing like GTA, Exactly, but also if you might be watching something a little bit violent on the telly.
Speaker 2:Yeah or the opposite.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, so that actually happened the other day where I was watching Dune Prophecy.
Speaker 2:Ah, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there was quite a graphic scene in that and I must admit I kind of jumped off the sofa and quickly shut the shutters because I didn't want anyone to be thinking ill of me, of what I was watching.
Speaker 2:It's silly, though, because, like, there's the same argument about having those sort of films on planes, and it comes to a slightly lean.
Speaker 1:I think they I think they edit some of the films on planes. I think I noticed this with Baby Driver when we went to America in 2017. Baby Driver when I saw it on the plane, I was like I'm watching a different film. This has been edited differently.
Speaker 2:Okay, maybe they have to change it for crying eyes, but I mean, people watch Netflix on their phones and stuff and I remember watching I don't know what programme it was but suddenly she was about to get on a flight and there was a plot twist and the flight went down. I thought, oh my God, if someone's watching this over my shoulder, they'd think I'm researching into putting planes down whilst I'm on a plane. Also, not the greatest thing for someone that's actually afraid of flying.
Speaker 1:We've had this conversation before, I think.
Speaker 2:I've mentioned this on air, but yeah, I was just like why did I do that to myself? I also listened to a 9-11 conspiracy podcast when I was on a plane as well. That wasn't my best move.
Speaker 1:One other thing what did we do last weekend?
Speaker 2:We went to a little festival, a moving festival called Emo Fest, and basically they played all of the tunes that I was pretty much listening to as a teenager in my room and you probably overheard through the wall. But then they played some stuff that you were very into as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was singing at the top of my lungs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when Slipknot come on. You were like oh.
Speaker 1:That was amazing.
Speaker 2:See, I don't listen to Slipknot, but you were going, manic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because a clown walked on, didn't he? Yeah, a clown walked on with a beer can or a beer cake and a baseball bat. Yeah, went nuts.
Speaker 2:You did go nuts yeah.
Speaker 1:Proper thing in duality, like the top of my voice at the back of Emo Fest.
Speaker 2:There was a lady who sang that's what you Get by Paramore. Yeah, I was a goner. And then they played I'm Not Okay. I Promise my Chemical Rose.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was awesome.
Speaker 2:I was singing that with Kate.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Shout out to.
Speaker 2:Kate, I don't know. I just felt like I was. My knees were hurting, I was dancing and Kate's got 10 years. She's 10 years younger than me as well. She's going for it, of course. She's like oh, I'm really tired and there's me like breaking my back at this point.
Speaker 1:My back. Even now, if I crack my back, I'm best. I had a really good time, felt a bit funny, didn't? I had a little funny spell, but other than that, yeah, you did because you, you, yeah, you went to the loot.
Speaker 2:At one point you said you were feeling a bit sick so hate went running in after you. Yeah, I was feeling a bit sick, passed quite quickly. Yeah, I was like, I was like just out for the count for 15 minutes and then I was fine again. Really weird, just playing chronic illness for that one, but yeah, but yeah. Other than that fantastic night they played stacy's mom oh, didn't they? Pokemon theme tune. I love how they really I love how they very much heavily reference millennials yeah as the starting point of the age bracket.
Speaker 2:And then there was all you like. Oh well, I guess our gen x, the gen x's, don't get there was a lot of gen x's there as well it was a very, very good age range yeah, it was a very and everyone was really friendly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was, and everyone was really friendly Everyone, everyone was. It was lovely. It was a really cool atmosphere.
Speaker 2:Lovely cool atmosphere. A lot of dyed hair, yeah.
Speaker 1:A lot of gothic clothing People really made an effort they did. What made me laugh is when I was singing Duality and that guy turned around and he shook my hand.
Speaker 2:He did because he was singing all the way through it as well. He noticed how much you were enjoying it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he's just going nice, yeah, like that.
Speaker 2:Did you happen to see the picture of me that they took? You know when they took that professional shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's when I jumped out the way, wasn't it? And I was like you jumped out the way, yeah, have you seen the picture? No, it's like Look at my little face.
Speaker 2:Look at my little face. I'm having a whale of a day and then also I don't know, I don't remember actually smiling like that and I remember also having a drink in my hand.
Speaker 1:But I don't you have to put that on the podcast. I'll have to put it on the podcast.
Speaker 2:yeah as we're talking about it when we release this episode, but yeah, so that was actually a big life update that 20 minutes in nearly. I think we should probably head to the actual topic, yeah might have to be a two-parter. Sorry, gang.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I certainly lived out my teenage dreams that night. Oh you did. That'll be the segue Like it like it.
Speaker 1:Thank you yeah.
Speaker 2:This is one of those very rare times that I actually wrote. I just thought it'd be funny. I have some really weird dreams, and when I talk about dreams, I'm not talking about like future dreams for yourself. I'm talking about when you go to sleep and you have a dream, or subsequently, maybe a nightmare.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, a dream is a sequence of thoughts, images, emotions and sensations that occur in the mind during sleep, especially during rapid eye movement. Dreams can be vivid and lifelike, and fragmented and abstract. They are influenced by memories, experience, emotions and subconscious thoughts. Dreams can serve various psychological purposes Physiological sorry, no, it does say psychological. No, it's psychological, I apologise if I read it correctly from the start, from processing emotions, memories, to exploring desires and fears, though their exact function is still not fully understood, which is interesting.
Speaker 1:And there have been a lot of studies and a lot of, I mean dream studies, sleep studies, all of that type of thing.
Speaker 2:I know that's a really long definition, but I fully agree with it, because there are some things that I think everybody has, things that play on their mind throughout the day, or maybe throughout the week, or maybe even throughout the year, and they do play havoc in my dreams. I actually mentioned I don't know if you remember me mentioning when we were playing dnd the other night is that I, when someone passes away in the family for some reason, maybe a week, two weeks, maybe even a month?
Speaker 2:yeah I will dream about them and I don't know, in my way that's, that's comfort, and I'm like, oh, they're cool, they're fine yeah I did.
Speaker 2:I think things like that because it's obviously death is quite an emotional, you know, emotional roller it can be. So I think that's why they present themselves. And then sometimes I have this reoccurring dream. We'll talk about this slightly later in the podcast as well, but I always have this reoccurring dream that my teeth are falling out and we're going to come on to that later because I've researched into that.
Speaker 2:Some common dreams, common things about that. But it's definitely something that reoccurs and it is because I'm I'm worried about things, or, you know, I really do think your, your, your experiences, your emotions do affect your dreams for sure. Oh well, they do, for me anyway yeah, yeah I'm a vivid dreamer and I remember a lot of my dreams. Uh, my husband, on the other hand, barely remembers any if he remembers it, he'll tell me and it's, I feel like it's it's less frequent than once a month, like never really dreams, yeah um every night I dream every night?
Speaker 1:well, I think I say that, I say that, but they're all over the place, aren't they dreams?
Speaker 1:they never follow for me, anyway, they never follow one timeline oh, I'm thinking the dream I had it about all over the shop. I had a dream last night that I went away on holiday and it ended up where I was in a swamp with crocodiles at one point, and yeah, it was bizarre. I'll tell you. What I do find is that if I say, for instance, if I drink right, so say like Friday night I'd had a few glasses of wine, I don't dream.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't dream at all, but the next night, when I don't have anything to drink, my dreams are almost like doubly vivid. It's like a saved up. It's like it is. It's almost like all those thoughts inside your head for whatever reason, because you're not processing it.
Speaker 2:When I have a really good night's sleep. I don't dream, because I don't think I'm in the REM stage, I think I'm in the deep sleep stage and I feel great in the morning, but those times where I don't, it's oh really.
Speaker 1:I actually feel more refreshed once I if I dream oh no yeah my dreams.
Speaker 2:Have you ever dreamt that you're at work and then you have to get up and go to work and you're like?
Speaker 1:I've already done this once but I used to have a dream not a recurring dream as such, because I have had a couple of recurring dreams where I would be having to go on stage, but it was for a play that I didn't know and I didn't know my lines and I was the lead part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll come on to that as well.
Speaker 1:I've had a couple of those dreams. I've had a dream within a dream you ever had one of them. Inception Absolutely shit myself. So I was. I'll just quickly tell you this story. So I was. I was being chased Down the road. I must have been about what, 12, 13 years old. I wasn't very old, okay, I was being chased down the road. I've told you this story. Maybe I've told you this story.
Speaker 2:Maybe I've told our listeners oh yeah, but you know it, don't you? Maybe yeah. You haven't told me much yet, to go on, but carry on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was being chased by a faceless man. Yes, yeah, ran into my house, ran into my bedroom, yeah. Got into my bed, yeah. Then woke up, thought, oh, jesus Christ, that was a horrible dream. Then the man came crashing through the window Horrible, yeah. And then I woke up again, and that's when I actually really did wake up. It was like Awful, what the that's hell. Yeah, that's hell yeah.
Speaker 2:So brief facts about dreaming. Most dreams are forgotten, so most people are in the majority of forgetting dreams. 95% of dreams are forgotten shortly after waking up. Everyone dreams, even though they claim that they don't. They just might not remember it. Dreams occur during REM sleep, which we've already said.
Speaker 1:That's me in the corner.
Speaker 2:Most people have multiple dreams per night and I would agree with this as well. Dreams can be in black and white. About 12% of people dream in black and white, and this is more common before the advent or before color TV came into circulation. You can feel emotions in dreams, Some people I know. There's a classic one where women will wake up if their partners cheated on them and feel angry about that. That's very funny. Lucid dreaming.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 2:I can't remember that Very funny Lucid dreaming.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I can't remember that. Something happened with your mum once in that regard, and where she'd had a dream about me and she was acting really weird towards me in the next morning. It wasn't that I cheated on her in the dream or anything like that. I just I can't remember what it was, but it was she just went. It was in my dream last night and I didn't like it and I was like yeah, it can really affect you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I have a really bad nightmare, I don't feel right the next day. Sometimes I feel a bit funny, like I'm not quite 100%, like I'm still scared of whatever was happening in my dream.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very weird Lucid dreaming. This is when a person becomes aware that they're dreaming and may even control parts of their dream. I aware that they're dreaming and may even control parts of their dream. I can do this, can you I? Can I done it? I used to do it as a child because I know when I was really young I was having nightmares and I was able to. I can't control my dream, but I can control myself waking up. I'll go to myself this is too scary and I can wake up. And then suddenly I am awake.
Speaker 2:But I've never been able to control my dream, in a sense of like I can't control what's happening, but I can wake myself up in my dream, going to myself I know this isn't real, and then I wake up. Yeah, very weird blind people also dream, even though they well, I would imagine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean it's it's probably worth noting here that blind people aren't always 100% blind either.
Speaker 1:Exactly, there's a whole spectrum in there.
Speaker 2:In case you're wondering yes, blind people do dream.
Speaker 1:This would be different as well if you were blind from birth or if you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, blind from birth, I imagine they still dream audibly. They dream. Well, they're still sensations, and maybe they have abstract images too in their brain. I'm not sure I'm not blind, but I'm not sure. We've talked about reoccurring dreams, and animals have also been proven to likely dream as well.
Speaker 1:Now I will say 100% animals do dream. 100% Archie definitely dreams. Now he will go, for I think he runs in fields in his dreams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because his little legs are going. His little legs go. He whimpers, doesn't he? Sometimes?
Speaker 1:I've noticed yeah, he does whimper in his sleep.
Speaker 2:You, have an enigma.
Speaker 1:He did bark at me once because he was whimpering in his sleep and I went down and he kind of went.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I wasn't sure where he was awake or not. So some obscure facts about dreams. Such a thing as dream lag Events sometimes show up in dreams days after they've happened, possibly due to delayed memory processing Inspiration. Some scientific discoveries and artistic ideas, like Einstein's theory of relativity, reportedly came from dreams.
Speaker 1:I've written a few. You know had a couple of song ideas and also story ideas from dreams.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you've ever done this, but I song ideas and also story ideas from dreams. I don't know if you've ever done this, but I have woken up in the night and I have a. I have a my phone next to my bed. I think most people do. I have come up. I will wake up at night and I can think of god. That's a good lyric and I'll just write it down have you ever done that all the time? And it's just like this is so cool, intense sensations.
Speaker 2:People can feel pain, uh, touching dreams, uh, though it's debated if this is purely mental. Now, from someone that has a chronic pain issue, I definitely feel pain in my dreams and sometimes, if I'm in really bad pain, I'll dream that that pain has come from something else. It's like I've been stabbed in my dream, but I wake up and I'm in pain and I'm like ah, yeah, yeah, my mind has made up a scenario of why that pain is there even though that's not how it got there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, I've had that with cramp?
Speaker 2:yes, you know, you get cramp in your leg or something in your leg.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate cramps when you're sleeping yeah, I'll say the one of the worst dreams and I say one because I've had when I was growing. I, like you, said nightmares ago go loads and loads of nightmares. But one of one of the recurring dreams I used to have is I couldn't walk my my legs didn't work.
Speaker 2:That's horrible, isn't?
Speaker 1:it Literally, I could it, just I just could not move.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I'd wake up with a cramp in my legs.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, crazy Phantom phone vibrations is another thing. That people feel their phone in their pocket, phantom vibrations of it going off, that's probably a new age thing. I've had in recent times False awakenings. You've mentioned that. People sometimes dream that they wake up and only to wake up again.
Speaker 1:Only ever happened to me once. Terrified me, absolutely terrified me.
Speaker 2:I get it quite a lot Unplanned lucidity, so people sometimes spontaneously realise that they're dreaming. That was what I was saying to you earlier, like when I was in a nightmare. I'm in a, I know this isn't real and I wake up.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if I can pronounce this one hypnagogic hallucinations.
Speaker 2:Just before sleep or waking up, dreamlike sensations can occur, like seeing shapes or hearing voices or twitching yes, because I don't know if you've ever I'm sure this isn't something that's only ever happened to me but you're about to fall asleep and suddenly your whole body just jerks that happens a lot, you've woken up I'll tell you what else is what happens to me as well.
Speaker 1:This happened to me the other day is getting home from work and absolutely knackered, and I sit on the sit on the sofa uh, reclining sofa, with the new telly on the wall, similar to the cinema and uh, your mum was sitting next to me and I was laying back in the chair and I just started to drift off. Now what I was hearing on the telly was influencing what was going on in my mind yeah but I was getting.
Speaker 1:When I nap I think, yeah, but I was getting a different story to what was happening in the show. Yeah, my mind was coming up with a completely different scenario and all sorts as I kind of like drifted off I do that too, because we tend to fall asleep watching, watching a program in bed.
Speaker 2:We have a bedtime program and then, yeah, and in that program sometimes I can hear like like, for example, I'll be watching new girl, and then I can hear kind of like jess day in my head, yeah, like saying stuff and doing stuff, and it's really weird, like as you're about to fall asleep, it's a very I think you hit rem as you're about to fall asleep you do it kind of just yeah and then you fall into a deep sleep and then you get back to rem when you're about to wake up, and I think that's why a lot of people who experience rem before they wake up are more likely to remember it, because it's literally just happened I think that's it.
Speaker 1:I think you, I think you remember the dream before you wake up. Not the one, yeah, not the one that you kind of go into. But what makes me wonder as well about dreams is how long they are.
Speaker 2:See, I think they all happen at once.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like your mind's just flooded with all the information at once.
Speaker 2:You know, like the theory, that our timeline is not linear. We see it as linear because we age in a linear way, but actually time is all happening all at once and I think that's how dreams, yeah, and that's why they flit around so much and they're so all over the place and don't make sense, because actually they're all happening at once and you're just piecing it together as best you can well, the human mind looks to put things into a perspective or a sense of order it tries to put them in boxes yeah, because that's how it tries
Speaker 1:to make sense how our brains work. We will try to make sense. So yeah, that theory that it does all hit at once, but then it's your brain unpacking it and putting it into like a lineal order.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of studies into into dreams, uh, particularly rem sleep and how emotion can affect it, and amygdala activation, which is a part of your brain that's that has a high activity when you go to sleep. So that might be something to do with dreaming Brain activity, recall memories, your mind making sense of things. We've mentioned lucid dreaming as well. We've mentioned that there are studies to suggest that external stimuli influence dreams.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like the telly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I quite like this one, though problem solving. Your brain is trying to solve problems in your life, and that's why you're having these dreams Again. That's kind of another emotional response Nightmares and PTSD. So yeah, as I've mentioned, nightmares come from things that you're trying to maybe process, potentially from whatever's happened to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've had some horrific nightmares in the past, absolutely horrific.
Speaker 2:And then memory consolidation. So it's a lot of things. I think people studies suggest that your dreams are like your memories, trying to kind of into those boxes, like we were saying, trying to sort themselves out.
Speaker 1:Have you ever had a dream where you thought it was really good You've woken up? But you know you can quite easily fall back asleep again yeah because say, for instance, it's like four in the morning, yeah and you just had a really cool dream you're like can. I go back to that dream, yeah, but then you start never can, yeah, you never do.
Speaker 2:You start dreaming about something completely different we'll come to the end of this part of dreams episode with the meaning behind dreams, okay, and then we'll go into part two, because we're definitely going to go over time. Sorry about that, guys. We had a very long life update yeah, we did, we did so let's talk about the meaning behind dreams yeah so we've mentioned this one already falling.
Speaker 2:So if you feel like you're falling in dreams, people have suggested that it's often connected to feeling insecure, a loss of control or anxiety in your real life. You ever had falling dreams? Yeah, you have all the time.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:That's the thing that I get before I'm about to go to sleep. I'll fall and just jerk awake like. I'm falling. Flying the opposite, Associated with freedom, ambition, desire to rise above challenges. Struggling to fly could reflect feelings of restriction or obstacles.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah. Being chased which's what you said. Yeah, I've had that one.
Speaker 2:Just an avoidance of fear of confronting something in waking life, often stress, responsibilities or unresolved emotion. I was only 12. Oh, but you know, yeah, still fear things when you're 12. Yeah, losing teeth, as I mentioned. Mm-hmm Common as I mentioned, commonly linked to feelings of powerlessness, self-image concerns or anxiety about ageing or appearance. I've also heard that losing teeth could be a sign of worrying about money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have had the losing teeth, but I can't remember how long ago, but I definitely have had the losing teeth dream.
Speaker 2:I get this one quite a lot. Sometimes it's so weird, but I think because I had a brace as well when I was younger I used to have this reoccurring dream that my teeth had been replaced by screws, Like in my mouth. Okay, Because I could feel I could run my tongue along my teeth and I could just feel metal. I remember what that feels like having a brace. I guess in my head that's kind of got like a bit confused and I'm thinking about screws and I think for me it's not. It's not that I'm worried about my appearance.
Speaker 2:it's worried that the money that I have to spend to rectify that my appearance yeah with my teeth and I wake up in the morning and then I touch my tongue along my teeth and I'm like, oh, thank god, it was a dream, like it's sometimes so real for me that my teeth have been turned into screws that I just feel and they're falling out and they're crumbling and I'm like pushing all the crumbly bits of teeth out of my mouth like I could spit them out. That's how vivid I hate it so much. Naked in public usually relates to vulnerability, exposure or fear of judgment, sometimes revealing insecurities. I think a lot of children have that dream of going to school without their trousers on. I think it's quite a common dream, do you know?
Speaker 1:I just want to think if I've ever had a dream where I've been naked in public.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I have. I can recall.
Speaker 1:Real life, yes, but no, I'm just kidding when. No, I haven't really, but in a dream. No, I haven't really, but in a dream. No, I don't think I have Not naked. Okay, not a naked one.
Speaker 2:Death or dying if you dream about that Rarely literal, these dreams may symbolise transformation, change or the end of a phase in life.
Speaker 1:We'll come on Very tarot, yeah, but we'll come on to this in part two of the episode about some of the theories behind dreams. Yeah, okay, because I did actually kind of write that bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you've added some stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you looked at it you kind of rolled your eyes at me this morning, oh, no. You're going down that route, but I have had a dream where I was an American police officer.
Speaker 2:You had a dream that you were an American police officer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is so random Carry on. It was vivid. It was absolutely vivid.
Speaker 2:And again.
Speaker 1:I must have been about late teens. Okay, this wasn't recent then. No, no, no, not recent, not recent. But I remember this dream, like it was yesterday, go on, and we were running up the stairs guns in hand. That's why it had to be America, america, because obviously, where were the stairs In? Like an apartment block, right, okay, yeah, an apartment. Running up the stairs and as I burst through the door, I got shot. Oh, fun. So I got shot, I hit the ground and I'm laying there on the stairs right, I could feel the pain in my stomach at the gunshot, yeah, and as I'm laying there, I can hear all this shouting more gunfire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I and were you in pain when you woke up?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Were you in bed or were you on the sofa?
Speaker 1:I was in bed. Oh, okay, I was in bed, there was nothing on the telly. Nothing on the telly. I was in bed and that was the dream, but it was so vivid and it was so real.
Speaker 2:You got shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I actually felt it in the dream. And yeah, but I died in the dream.
Speaker 2:I think yeah, and then to black, yeah, yeah, uh, taking a test or being unprepared goes back to you going to your um being on stage. Yeah, yeah yeah, so apparently that often reflects stress, fear of failure or feeling unprepared or judged in waking situations. I think this is saying revealing a lot about you.
Speaker 1:Yeah actually bizarrely enough, it's really stressed yeah, bizarrely, yeah, yeah, um, but bizarrely enough in that dream where I was actually at college. I was at Grantham College where I studied drama ah, okay.
Speaker 2:So if you've ever missed a flight or an appointment in your dream indicates fear of missed opportunities or feeling of falling behind on goals, can't say I've ever experienced that one. No, I mean, I feel like I will tonight, though, now that we've talked about it, yeah, no, I will tonight.
Speaker 1:I don't know how I talked about it. Yeah, no, I'm saying I've had this where my legs don't work.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've had that one yeah.
Speaker 2:Finding a new room or house symbolises personal growth, self-discovery or new opportunities in life. Can I segue into a dream that I had fairly recently, so I don't know where this comes from.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Our neighbours don't have Small children. So Okay, again, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just building the scene for Okay, yeah. But I go in the house, my house, my current house, which is three storeys, so I have two sets of stairs, and I remember seeing it was empty or I was either moving out or moving into it, and up the stairs Was these like crayon scratches, like a kid had gone up the stairs with the crayon oh, this is a little bit blair witch yeah, so, but it was just like you know, playful, playful crayons up the stairs yeah, like red rum written on it, or just kids, like just just going up the stairs with a crown in their hand.
Speaker 2:So I go upstairs and I see it everywhere and I'm like, for god's sake, the, the neighbor's kid, is in my house yeah I get to the top of the top stairs, I open my spare bedroom, which has a carpet in it but no furniture.
Speaker 2:He's sitting, this boy again. I don't know who he is he, but he's the neighbor's kid, because that's what I call him. He's sitting there in the middle of the room with a stick and a live chicken. I know and I'm like, excuse me, mister, I don't think you should be in here. I pick him up the stick and the chicken. Yeah, my arms, because he's quite small. I'm talking like three-year-old With a chicken.
Speaker 1:With a chicken.
Speaker 2:And then I take him to next door and his mum's like, oh, boys will be boys. I was like he's just drawn crayon all over my house and brought a chicken in there. I do not know where this. What is that dream? What if there is a therapist that listens to our podcast? Can you tell me what the hell that means? What am?
Speaker 1:I doing, dreaming about a three-year-old and a chicken and a stick and crayons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and I obviously don't have children either and I blamed it on their neighbor. And the neighbor was just so blasé like oh yeah, no, I'm not gonna pay to fix that, and I'm like sorry can we go back to the chicken?
Speaker 1:what it's okay.
Speaker 2:I have questions you and me both like what the hell? Uh, yeah, it was so weird. Um, it was so weird, in fact, that I sent it to a friend uh, vick, actually I don't know. I mentioned her quite a few times on this podcast, but she does listen to our podcast as well. So shout out again to vick. But yeah, I told her and my friend ella straight away I was this is the weirdest dream, anyway. So I think that might. Maybe that symbolises personal growth, self-discovery or new opportunities in life. Maybe I was like you know what? I have the balls to go to my neighbour and say, yeah, you're going to fix this. Maybe it was like a character building moment for me that I've got the guts to be like no.
Speaker 1:Because normally you're too chicken to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe that's what the chicken is.
Speaker 1:I'm the chicken. You're the chicken in that Hilarious. You're a chicken, but you're also quite childlike in the fact that you're in that kind of arena. Yeah, but you do have a stick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe that's what it means. Yeah, yeah, I don't need therapy after all there you go. We've just analysed that dream, and the last common dream that people have is being unable to speak or move. It's called sleep paralysis. It can either happen when you are just about to fall asleep, but it reflects feeling stuck, powerless or unable to express oneself, sometimes linked to real experiences of sleep paralysis.
Speaker 1:Did myself a mischief in bed once. Do I want?
Speaker 1:to know this, yeah yeah, no, we'll just kind of finish the episode on this one. Where I was, I was kind of laying and I think I must have been laying. So still, because it's going into the sleep paralysis as well, I'm kind of going with this. Yeah, I think I was laying in bed, so still, my body had almost not seized, but it was like I hadn't moved for probably a couple of hours, like no tossing, turning, nothing. I hadn't moved at all. Okay, because as I woke up I sneezed, and when I sneezed I gave myself a hernia oh no and in my stomach and that was the worst pain.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's rubbish, that was pretty shit. Yeah, that was awful. Yeah, so it's not quite sleep paralysis. It wasn't really dream related, but I just thought I'd throw that one out there to you.
Speaker 2:Well, we hope you like listening to our crazy dreams. Let us know if you've had some crazy dreams. We are going to continue this podcast on a second episode which will come out next week. Are we going to do it consecutively?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we will. We'll do it because this one is going to come out on the 8th of December. No, today's the 8th of December, isn't it? Today is so next Thursday and the Thursday after, and then we'll do the Christmas. The Christmas one will release on Boxing Day.
Speaker 2:Boxing Day.
Speaker 1:That's exciting.
Speaker 2:Yes, so, yeah, we hope you enjoyed this particular episode. If you'd like to hear more about Dreams, there will be another episode next week, but if you're listening to this into the future, then the Dream podcast might already be out. So, yeah, do what you need to do to find our second podcast episode on dreams, which we are definitely not going to record straight away after this one at all.
Speaker 1:No, no, of course not. That's not how it works, yeah.
Speaker 2:No Magic podcasting. See you next time, bye-bye you.