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How Music Shapes Fashion Through the Decades

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Have you ever wondered how your favorite song from decades past has influenced the shirt on your back or the shoes on your feet? Picture this: you're zipping up a colorful tie-dye jumpsuit and slipping into the whimsical world of psychedelic rock and Motown from the 1960s. Our episode is a vibrant exchange as we bring to life the intertwining tales of music and fashion, sharing how each era's soundtracks shaped our wardrobe choices—from the reggae beats of the 70s to the synth pop flair of the 80s. Through these stories, we explore the patterns and colors that made each decade unique, revealing how music genres have always been the invisible threads in our style fabric.

Fast forward to the 90s and 2000s, where we groove to the gritty beats of Gangsta Rap and the pulsating rhythms of the rave scene. Tupac and The Notorious B.I.G. make a grand entrance with their unmistakable style, while we reminisce about the unforgettable rave culture, highlighted by neon accessories and larger-than-life techno beats. As we navigate through the emo era, we chuckle over the quirky band names and revel in the nostalgia of skinny jeans and heavy eyeliner. Join us as we recount the fashion revolutions powered by music, from hip-hop's gold chains to the indie rock resurgence led by bands like Arctic Monkeys.

Our journey lands us in today's landscape, where modern subgenres from bedroom pop to Latin trap continue to influence style narratives. We humorously ponder over the thrifted looks of today and realize our own "generational gap" as we encounter artists like 100 gecs and Bad Bunny. In a special segment, we find ourselves transported to the historical grandeur of Warwick Castle, blending period fashion with contemporary music discussions. We invite you to share in our playful exploration of music's timeless influence on fashion, past and present, leaving you with a sense of wonder and a smile on your face.

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Davey:

Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad. Bonus Daughter a special father-daughter podcast with me Hannah and me, davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world, Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view and influences throughout the decades, or you could choose one by contacting us via email, Instagram, Facebook or TikTok Links in bio.

Hannah:

Welcome to another episode of Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter podcast we're going to do another musically influenced episode.

Davey:

Yeah, influenced yeah.

Hannah:

Yes.

Davey:

Influenced is the right word actually, because kind of what this episode is about is about how music influences fashion and vice versa yes because you can quite often tell the type of music that someone's into by the way that they dress you can tell by the way he walks.

Hannah:

He's a chicken man. What I don't know?

Davey:

yeah, okay, all right. Um, I I genuinely don't know how to react to that, so I just came out of nowhere. You're right.

Hannah:

You can tell by the way someone dresses what type of music they might be listening to.

Davey:

They might be listening to yes.

Hannah:

I'm a bit more of a music chameleon. I would say I dress very hippie, although I'm into emo, hippie rock, college rock and have been stuck in this rut for the best part of 15 years. Yeah, so um, I've never really grown up yeah so, yeah, I dress pretty good hippie.

Hannah:

So it's a we make an assumption based on what some or how someone is dressed in the music they might listen to. And sometimes you you hear someone say oh yeah, I'm really into so-and-so, and you look at them and you think you can surely not be into that.

Davey:

Yeah, you do tend to yeah, you can yeah Like sorry.

Hannah:

Oh, right, okay, okay.

Davey:

Yeah, I mean one example, just throw one out. There is emo. You know that's very distinguished, isn't it? Or a very distinguishable look is the emo look, or goth, look, goth.

Davey:

What we ran into, but I thought we'd, um, we'd go through, uh, from the 60s essentially, and I've kind of got free davy I know, I know I've kind of got four music sub genres for each of the decades, from the 60s and kind of present day to present day and kind of what the uh types of fashion would coincide with that type of music. So take for example the very first one, so in the 60s, psychedelic rock. So bands were talking like the Doors potentially, I mean you could argue later, beatles was fairly psychedelic rock, I'd say so like Sgt Pepper's.

Hannah:

Yeah, after you had the after kind of the walrus, yeah, the msd kind of.

Davey:

Yeah, very drug adult that type of adult uh music writing yeah and it would be. You know the kind of fashion that was kind of uh attributed to. That was like very bright colors, tie-dye, paisley prints, bell-bottom jeans. I love tie-dye. I just recently bought a tie-dye, paisley prints and bell-bottom jeans.

Hannah:

I love tie-dye. I just recently bought a tie-dye jumpsuit that you need to see.

Davey:

Have you really?

Hannah:

Yeah, I'm just not sure if it looks very flattering on me. It's very boxy looking and I don't typically, as an hourglass figure, look good in boxy clothing.

Davey:

Really.

Hannah:

I will wear it for you because it's.

Davey:

Yeah, yeah, I'd love to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cool.

Hannah:

Sorry, yeah, so I have I mean.

Davey:

Random tidbit of the day.

Hannah:

I have worn that. You've worn bell bottoms. Yeah, I bet you have I have. You little hippie freak yeah.

Davey:

I did at one stage, I remember I had a set of flares. When come back, yeah, I saw a flare. I mean, that was, I mean, probably about 17 years ago, yeah, but I didn't have flares. They are cool. I love flares awesome.

Hannah:

I'm personally into mum jeans like, not skinny jeans anymore. I used to be such a skinny jean gal, oh, and now I just no, it's comfort all the way.

Davey:

Yeah, so that's kind of psychedelic rock. Yeah, so bright colours, tie-dyes. Sorry, I completely went into my own wardrobe there. That's fine. Yeah, bright colours, tie-dye, Paisley, Prince bell bombs. Now other music sub-genres is do you look at the opposite of that in the 60s? Motown.

Hannah:

Oh, I love Motown. I love Motown so much, it's one of my favourite music genres. But I don't think a lot of people would look at me and go. Yeah, you're into motown. No, I love the soul in the voices. I love the music writing. I like to sing motown, even though it's they're so difficult to cover because of the harmonies that they use. They they're very much layering on the harmonies. I love motown.

Davey:

Yeah, marvin gaye oh, marvin Gaye, the Supremes, yeah, oh, wait a minute, mr Postman. Yeah, I mean just just yeah. Motown is a very, very good genre of music. I love it, but the the kind of fashion that's attributed to, that is tailored suits very, you know, almost like business attire business. But you know the dresses think of, like Diana Ross and the Supremes, and the dresses that they used to wear, very elegant, flowing kind of dresses.

Hannah:

As they should be.

Davey:

I mean, even if you think about so, going from a, if you want to just think about Motown, you go like Northern Soul in England. Same sort of thing, it was mods.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

It was that kind of yeah suits, you dress up and you look smart, you look crisp, you look clean. Yep, uh, so there's, there's that. But no, you're right, I love motown, great smoky robinson. Oh, tears of a clown. Yeah, what a song, what a song. Brilliant, brilliant song. Then, of course, you had folk rock yeah so if you kind of had psychedelic rock was very kind of, if, going from the drug references was very lsd that type of colors would have been very bright very bright, vibrant, magic mushrooms, that type of thing.

Davey:

Then you got folk rock, and to me folk rock in the 60s earth tones, yeah, and I'm immediately seeing marijuana here as well. That's the first thing that pops into my head.

Hannah:

Yeah, I guess psychedelic rock, not so, not so weed, not so weed, orientated more kind of lsd, the psychedelics, the trippy stuff, folk rock is more chilled.

Davey:

Uh, things like bob dylan the birds.

Hannah:

I mean bob dylan you can just imagine sitting there with a with a joint yeah, bob dylan is one of those characters supposed to be talking about fashion.

Davey:

I'm talking about drugs. Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, it's a fashion statement.

Hannah:

I mean Bob Dylan as well. He's written so many songs oh he's hundreds that loads of people have covered.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Arguably better than their original. I would say I think Adele is a huge one for that. Bob Dylan is a kraken at writing songs, but he doesn't make them famous.

Davey:

He's not very good at delivering them, but songs, but he doesn't make them famous.

Hannah:

He's not very good at delivering them.

Davey:

But don't worry, he gets them royalties. So I'm sure he's not that biffed.

Hannah:

Make you feel my love is Bob Dylan right.

Davey:

So the folk rock fashion is kind of casual denim flannel shirts with an emphasis on natural fibres, which again is that kind of earthy kind of feel to it, I'm all for that. Yeah, I've seen that.

Hannah:

I wear quite earthy tones. I'd say, yeah, maybe I'm less psychedelic than I thought I'm more earth, yeah. I'm more folk rock.

Davey:

And then, of course, we've got the.

Hannah:

British.

Davey:

Invasion the Beatles, rolling Stones.

Hannah:

Very red, white and blue orientated. Yeah, um, again very mod style as well.

Davey:

I'd say, yeah, for sure, you know the sharp suits, the mini skirts, bold patterns, that time but, but, but very patriotic yeah, can I say that? Yeah, like yeah very britain focused like yeah, I mean I've got, I've got in my head as well. Um, oh god, I can't remember jerry hallowell's.

Davey:

Yeah, but I know I know, spice girls are 90s, but I'm just like jerry hallowell's, like lulu lulu lulu, you know, with that kind of the, the black and white, um, checkered dresses, that, that type of that type of thing. And I'm trying to think I was going to say toya's more 70s, isn't she Some more 70s and 80s but 60s, yeah, lulu. I can't remember the other famous kind of female vocalist from the 60s which was British, similar to Lulu. It's gone out of my head now, sorry, moving on, but yeah, that kind of, yeah, the I was thinking of is it Helen Small and people.

Davey:

No, no, that's more 80s, isn't it? Oh sorry, More 80s. So yeah, so that's four. So the 460s? Psychedelic rock, Motown folk rock, British Invasion Very, very different clothing, aren't they? Mm-hmm, Very different. So, as we move into the 70s, Davey was born. Davey enters the chat so disco, so disco, baby, yeah, baby flare.

Hannah:

Yeah, cuffs flare glamorous sequins platform shoes oh yeah, platform shoes, and some of them had, like platform shoes that had water or googly bits in them. Yeah, lava lamps makes me think of lava lamps yeah, really kind of you, you know.

Davey:

Sunglasses, big hair, shiny suits, afros, oh God, yeah. Disco, yeah, love it.

Hannah:

Do you think disco is a combination of psychedelic rock meets Motown? I think so. They're like let's combine forces. Yeah, we have created disco.

Davey:

Let's create disco.

Hannah:

Saturday Night Fever.

Davey:

Oh God, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean disco is a genre that needs to seriously come back. I disagree. No, it definitely does. Let's get the disco back. Oh yes, oh yes.

Hannah:

Okay, more into our zone, there was punk rock.

Davey:

Punk rock Bands like the Ramones, sex Pistols, sex Pistols Now, this is a very interesting fashion.

Hannah:

DIY aesthetic.

Davey:

Explain to me what that means. So you do it yourself. It's like you make your own clothes, but we're using safety pins, ripped clothes, leather jackets, kind of. You're putting patches on you as well, and even like the hairstyle the punk rock hairstyle was very Mohican.

Hannah:

Yeah. You know, and Slapped together.

Davey:

Yeah, I mean, I remember punks. I do remember seeing punks around in this format.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

You know, around Norwich when, because I left Norwich when I was five, but I do remember seeing, you know, gangs of punks, groups of punks hanging around, you know, and it is a very studs as well, it's a very, very you know. As soon as you see a punk, you know it's a punk. Yeah, they are so Recognisable, recognisable, they stand out yeah. Yeah.

Hannah:

Classic rock.

Davey:

Led Zeppelin and Queen. Yeah, queen, queen was born.

Hannah:

Yeah, I mean Freddie Mercury himself dressed I don't know. In a sense he was quite out there really actually with his fashion. Yeah, I mean.

Davey:

But Queen's one of those bands that, although they're classed as rock, they're not. Okay. I'm going to say something quite controversial here. Oh, go on, queen are their own. You actually listen to the format and the way that Queen songs are written.

Hannah:

They're in their own genre, yeah, and they they flit genres as well, yeah because I mean they use opera, they use opera, yeah, um god, really loads of methods I can't think of anymore. Yeah, the human rap stew is obviously one of the exact, and that's why I think using genres, more than four genres in a whole song, yeah, exactly, I went from a ballad to opera to Heavy rock, heavy rock, and it's like sorry, what's going on here?

Davey:

Yeah, the Queen are. I think they're genius. I really really do. Don't get me wrong, I don't like all of Queen's songs. There are some that I've heard, but Freddie Mercury's vocals are just, oh, incredible, incredible, absolutely incredible. But yeah, they're kind of clothing, bohemian and eclectic, with fringe, denim and headbands. Oh denim, denim, huge fan of denim. Yeah, denim on double denim.

Hannah:

Oh yeah, I wore double denim yesterday.

Davey:

See, that's a crime against fashion.

Hannah:

It's not, is it? It's not anymore.

Davey:

Really Nope, oh no, no, or just no, no. Double denim it's the way forward.

Hannah:

And then, of course, reggae, yes reggae, so you come into your own yeah, casual Rastafarian colours dreadlocks, bob Marley natural fabrics yeah, bob.

Davey:

Marley, when I was at school when I say when I was at school, when I was at college and I can't remember his name there was this guy I went to college with and he had the most amazing dreadlocks. I mean, these things must have taken years, absolutely years to cultivate.

Davey:

And I remember sitting in the canteen once, and cultivating, I remember sitting in the canteen at Grantham College and he just sat there with me and he went I've had enough now these dreadlocks. He went and got scissors and cut them all off there and I was just looking at him what are you doing? What are you doing? And then he shaved his head and was bored for the rest of the time.

Hannah:

What.

Davey:

It was nuts, absolutely nuts.

Hannah:

Crazy, did he keep them?

Davey:

Yeah, he kept them. He kept them yeah.

Hannah:

So a rest of varying colours like red, black, green, yellow, right, yeah, yeah yeah. A rest. The rest of the colours and, yeah, natural fabrics.

Davey:

That kind of yeah reggae is very casual, yeah, casual, baggy, yeah yeah, chilling out, chilling out With a joint. With a joint it's kind of like, oh, reggae artists, of course, the legend that is Bob Marley, yeah yeah, but yeah, reggae is kind of. When you look at the, the fashion is almost a little bit similar to folk rock yeah but more colorful colorful folk rock yeah, more colorful. Yeah, yeah, listed here anyway. So then, of course, traveling to the 80s traveling to the 80s fast forwarding to the 80s fast forward, yeah let's go this is kind of where you come into your element.

Hannah:

Yeah, this is. You were born in the 70s, so this is where you come and you find your own style.

Davey:

This is where I was. I mean me personally. I was starting to recognise, Recognise and probably even starting to think a little bit more, getting from a musical position as well, thinking about my own kind of style and fashion, especially kind of later 80s, early 90s so new wave?

Hannah:

yeah, bands like depeche mode duran duran yeah girls on film see, I would call that.

Davey:

I mean, they were kind of like the new romantics, like adamant was in there as well, it kind of says yeah, adamant met adamant, really yeah okay when I was okay met Adamant. Really yeah, okay.

Hannah:

How'd that go?

Davey:

Was he nice? No, I played a gig in Camden.

Hannah:

Oh, okay.

Davey:

So we went down to Camden me, grant, I don't think anyone else went Josh went down there, becca went and your mum and I was playing at Proud in Camden and we were all doing solo bits and I was playing the guitar and singing and there was. I just remember seeing this guy standing in the corner and he had a can of rum and coke. And you know, when you look at someone and they stand out for whatever reason, you think you know he, he looks like he's somebody and he was standing there just kind of tapping his feet listening to me sing and play the guitar, drinking his rum and coke. And then, you know, after, and he went off, wandered off around Camden, and you know, just, I just sort of noticed him, thought yeah, I recognise you, and then three or four days later he was on telly and it was like, oh, he's Adamant. I was like bloody Adamant.

Hannah:

He's Adamant. Wow, you didn't actually meet him.

Davey:

I didn't actually meet him. He listened to me. Yeah, he listened to me before that's a good claim to fame, so yeah. So what type of fashion goes with New Wave? Bold colours, bold colours, asymmetrical designs, skinny ties.

Hannah:

See, skinny ties make me think of Green Day. He wore a skinny tie.

Davey:

No, these were more like leather skinny ties. Oh, okay, and I remember as well, there was the piano skinny ties oh yes, yeah.

Hannah:

Yes.

Davey:

I did have a red leather skinny tie you, crazy fool.

Hannah:

I did have one yeah, yeah, yeah, explain to me what hair metal is oh, hair metal is kind of like.

Davey:

It's kind of like heavy metal. So you know, like heavy metal you got iron maiden, metallica. Hair metal was more of an American kind of version of that, but much more colourful, much more flamboyant. Things like the Ed Lark, yeah, motley Crue, bon Jovi, whitesnake.

Hannah:

Oh OK. Yeah, that type of Big hair, big hair, you know, spandex, leather and bandanas.

Davey:

Yeah, I mean still Panther, I think is still going and they have a twisted sister. You know, that's hair metal, so we're talking an entire can of L-Net on their head before they go out on stage. Nice, yeah, and I used to worry me with the pyrotechnics.

Hannah:

Set their hair alive. Yeah, then we have hip hop.

Davey:

Yes, I mean we're talking early hip-hop.

Hannah:

Run DMC.

Davey:

Yeah, ll Cool J.

Hannah:

Didn't Run DMC, do Tricky. Yeah, it's Tricky.

Davey:

Trap and Rome. Yeah, I think they did. They also did Walk this Way with Aerosmith.

Hannah:

Oh, that was them.

Davey:

That was Run DMC.

Hannah:

Aerosmith, they're a hair band. Aerosmith are a hair band as well.

Davey:

That's Steve Tyler, that type of Tyler with his leopard print kind of spandex that he's wearing. Where does Kiss fall? Oh yeah, very much.

Hannah:

Hair band oh yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, very, very, very, very much hair band and then synth pop uh, yeah, then new order.

Davey:

Come back up again yeah, new order very, very synth pop. Okay, oh, but you didn't say what type of fashion oh sorry, hip-hop.

Hannah:

You've got tracksuits, gold chains and kangol hats. What's a kangol hat?

Davey:

kangol hats, almost like a flat cap from, I remember, or, and they had a little picture of a kangaroo on and kangol.

Hannah:

Okay, yeah no, I have no idea. This is the 80s.

Davey:

I was not born all Okay, yeah, yeah, although you can get bucket Kangol hats as well.

Hannah:

Oh, okay.

Davey:

Bucket hats. They're almost like a little flat.

Hannah:

Yeah, I thought bucket hats were more 90s.

Davey:

They were sort of what Grammy stars wear bucket hats in the 90s at festivals, that kind of festival kind of feel to it.

Hannah:

Synth pop yeah, I mean yeah futuristic, androgynous styles, neon colours and heavy use of makeup yeah, both male and female ah well, androgynous yeah, very, very kind of.

Davey:

You know, when people come up on stage you would see, I mean think of Boy George. I know culture clubs theoretically isn't, but kind of kind of. Is that kind of again that neon? Desert, loving in your eyes come a come a, come a, come a, come a, come a. You wore a lot of makeup, boy George, didn't you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he still does actually, huh, he still does. Is he still alive, boy George?

Hannah:

yeah, oh right, yeah, he's still alive. Oh yeah, george.

Davey:

Michael, that's past.

Hannah:

Yeah, george Michael would synth pop class as like Wham. Would that be synth pop?

Davey:

Not really when does Wham come into this? Not Wham, kind of is just basic. Well, I say basic pop. I'd say it's just pop. Really Synth pop is a little bit more yeah, like, like, like New Order was, was, was synth pop, trying to think of some. You think of synths, you think of very keyboard led okay yeah, kind of very keyboard led musical melodies.

Hannah:

Okay, it's like that should we move to the 90s?

Davey:

yeah, that's a shame.

Hannah:

I love the 80s well, we're moving on, we're moving on, because guess who was born in the 90s. Hannah now enters the chat, so we've got grunge when I think of the 90s. I don't think anyone can not think of Nirvana. Oh no, you know tragic end of his life as well, of course.

Davey:

Of course.

Hannah:

Yeah, which is why they're probably just as famous as they are.

Davey:

I was in a taxi in Scarborough. What when you found out? When he died, it came over the radio.

Hannah:

Scarborough. Well, when you found out, when he died.

Davey:

It came over the radio. I was at the Scarborough Drama Festival in the 90s and that was the year that I met Rick Mayall. Ah and I was in a taxi and driving back to the theatre and it came over the radio that Kurt Cobain had been found dead what did he?

Hannah:

do you remember what year that was? That was 94 oh he died before I was born? Yeah, I think so.

Davey:

I think it was 94. Yeah.

Hannah:

And then Pearl Jam.

Davey:

Grunge Jeremy Sparking.

Hannah:

Yes, yes, we got flannel shirts, ripped jeans and combat boots. This was me, yeah.

Davey:

This was very much me, yeah. Yeah, I was very kind of grungy in the 90s, very grungy in the 90s, very grungy in the 90s.

Hannah:

Of course, Britpop.

Davey:

Mm-hmm.

Hannah:

Oasis recently reformed.

Davey:

They have indeed.

Hannah:

Ticketmaster flipped out.

Davey:

Yes, it did.

Hannah:

Made a lot of people angry.

Davey:

It did indeed. Have you seen the Garen Noon sketch about Ticketmaster and Oasis tickets? Oh, it's brilliant. I love that guy.

Hannah:

He's awesome Parkers track jackets and mod-inspired looks.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

The parkers, the green long parkers.

Davey:

My imagination. I'm not an Oasis fan, by the way.

Hannah:

Yeah, we can tell.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Britpop is not my preferred.

Davey:

There was a huge thing in the 90s, a big kind of you're either Oasis or Blur.

Hannah:

I think Britpop again. It's got that patriotism to it that I'm just yeah, pulp as well. Pulp was very Britpop you just want to live like common people yeah, exactly, I was into Britpop.

Davey:

You know I did like it it was. You know I was much more grunge, but I did like Britpop.

Hannah:

I don't know how I feel about Britpop. I'm not sure I like it, if I'm honest but I did not like Oasis.

Davey:

You know I wasn't. You were a blur fan, I was a blur fan. I did go to Nedworth did you feel heavy metal? Girls, who like boys, who like boys out there girls do.

Hannah:

They do live in a house, a very big house, that was the battle.

Davey:

It was when they released country house and Oasis released their song, which one would get to number one brilliant market employ, brilliant market employee in the 90s. But yeah, it wasn't really. I mean, don't get me wrong, I did kind of I did go to Nebworth to see Oasis and that was a very well. I think I've said before it was one of those gigs that was too big, yeah yeah, it was way too big.

Davey:

And you know the recent news about Oasis is. You know the recent news about Oasis is Oasis, is Oasis reuniting. I was like meh.

Hannah:

It's a publicity stunt.

Davey:

I'm not really that over fussed Linkin Park, however.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

Oh yeah, you're all over that. I'm all over that, yeah, but we'll, yeah, we'll get onto them later. Yeah, we can Gangsta, rap, gangsta rap yeah. Tupac Tupac, notorious BIG. It's interesting that it's put those two together, orcs baggy jeans, oversized t-shirts and Timberland boots.

Hannah:

Yeah, yeah.

Davey:

Gangsta Rap as well. It's got a lot Ice Cube, ice T, snoop Dogg oh, la, la, la, la, it's some. I love Snoop Dogg just as a person. La, la, la, la la. It's the. I love Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg, Just as a person.

Hannah:

I think he's awesome, he's chill.

Davey:

He's like. I saw someone who put on there the other day that he's the type of man who's completing all of the side quests as well. I mean the guy who ran with the Olympic torch yeah, it's just like. Of all the people you know Norwich, yeah, no, I'm sure he came on stage wearing a Norwich City shirt. Man's a legend, he's great.

Hannah:

Absolute legend. I'm a huge fan of his personality.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

He don't care, does he?

Davey:

Not at all.

Hannah:

And then, of course, we cannot really mention the 90s without Techno Rave. Hell yeah that was where that began, and I know nothing of this. I mean I know Pro of this, I mean I know Prodigy, I know.

Davey:

Keith Flint, orbital who's the other band. The other band.

Hannah:

Well, there's two, isn't there? There's Prodigy, there's more than two, there's not, there's two, there's only two. There's Prodigy and Faithless. That's the only.

Davey:

Oh, my God.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

Have I kept you away from that whole musical genre?

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

Have I, yeah, okay.

Hannah:

Yeah, neon, neon Fat pants with a PH.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Electric.

Davey:

Eclectic accessories like glow sticks. Put your glow sticks in your hands, a certain way to be able to.

Hannah:

Do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Wh way to be able to do, do, do, do, do do whistles.

Davey:

Whistles were a thing as well. Lsd was a thing. There's more ecstasy, oh ecstasy, of course, and so you glow sticks in your hands, whistles, although whistles was more acid rave, you know acid house do you mean physical blowing whistles?

Hannah:

yeah, whistles, oh right, yeah, actual, proper whistles, not kazoos.

Davey:

Yeah, can you imagine kazoos? Yeah, we used to wear. I mean, that's when I had bleached blonde hair. Yeah, I'm aware. Yeah, the bleached blonde hair days. And yeah, the hard house. See again, there's sub genres of sub genres here.

Hannah:

Well, yeah.

Davey:

You've got happy, hardcore, hard house trance, you know, not just techno. Gabba, oh Gabba, that was wrong, gabba was wrong, that was just insane. What?

Hannah:

was wrong with Gabba.

Davey:

It's just too fast. You couldn't dance to Gabba. It was just ridiculous. Loved Happy Hardcore, though Happy Hardcore was awesome and Hard House. Those were my two favourite Happy Hardcore and Hard House. And then, of course, you had the other flip side. Yeah, shall we move on?

Hannah:

Shall, we move on from the 90s.

Davey:

Okay, I'm a bit too excited.

Hannah:

Let's get to my era. It was the 2000s, the start of the millennium, the new millennium. We had emo. Now this is where I'm sitting. Bands like my Chemical Romance Fall Out Boy, panic at the Disco, emo.

Davey:

I love emo yeah.

Hannah:

Skinny jeans, band t-shirts, heavy liquid eyeliner. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't wear as much liquid eyeliner as I did back then, but I still wear a lot like I still wear it to this day. Even on my wedding day I was wearing black eyeliner you were yeah, yeah, yeah I am.

Davey:

I'm holding on to my emo roots, yeah, yeah yeah, I mean yeah, emo, but like my chemical romance fallout boy, would you class panic as emo yeah, I do actually do you?

Hannah:

um, I do think they're emo because panic at the disco have a folky kind of nuss to them they've got a very theatrical kind of A theatrical yeah, very theatrical. I would still say Emo. They still class into that category.

Davey:

Yeah, well, their record company is fuelled by Raymond, isn't it, which is the same as Fall Out Boy. They have the same as.

Hannah:

Fall Out Boy for a while. I'm not sure if they still do. I mean, the one person now is hardly. It's just not even panic at the disco, it's like.

Davey:

It's Brendan, isn't it? So it's just Brendan.

Hannah:

Well, he's just slightly perturbed at the disco.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

He's only one of them, slightly shocked at not being there.

Davey:

Slightly perturbed at the disco, unsettled at the disco, yeah.

Hannah:

Because it's just him. Yeah, there's a little emo band joke there for you.

Davey:

Yeah, but yeah but what I, what I love about the whole the emo is that a lot of their song titles have no, are just no relevance. They're very strange.

Hannah:

Fall Out Boy is very yeah. I mean, I Write Sins, not Tragedies. Is I chimed in? Why did they not name it I chimed in.

Davey:

It would have been so much easier so you know, you know Jack, who is the lead singer of Youth Killed it, but also our producer, jack Murphy of him so Jack's got his studio up on North Norfolk Coast and of course Jack, he's in his booth and we're in the other booth when we record. And on the picture of the door he's got Brendan in the full-on circus outfit.

Hannah:

Oh right.

Davey:

Going saying close the goddamn door. Yes, Brilliant, Absolutely brilliant. Skinny jeans band t-shirts, heavy eyeliner.

Hannah:

I just said. I just said fallout boys famous for this, but I write sins, not tragedies. Is panic at the disco?

Davey:

it's panic at the disco, yeah yeah, I, I, I fallout boys, ones like my lawyer did something oh no, that's panic at the disco. That's panic at the disco as well. Why can't?

Hannah:

I think of any Fall Out Boy songs right now.

Davey:

There's like my Lawyer.

Hannah:

Young Volcanoes, but that says Young.

Davey:

Volcanoes. One of the tracks is called something like Our Lawyer Wouldn't Let Us Release this Song, or something like that. I can't remember.

Hannah:

A Little Less, 16 Candles, A Little More Touch Me is Fall Out Boy.

Davey:

It's Fall Out Boy. It's coming to me now.

Hannah:

Okay, maybe it was that album. Yeah, it's one album One album where they're not all named. Yeah, I'm getting confusaled. I've committed the emo crime.

Davey:

You have indeed my Chemical Romance, though. Love my Chemical Romance. I was gutted. I didn't get to see them, mc, really gutted. Yeah, a couple of people from work went and I didn't get to see them. We went to Milton Keynes to see them, absolutely gutted. But yeah, so you've worn emo fashion with the skinny jeans, band t-shirts and heavy eyeliner.

Hannah:

Did I ever?

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

And still do.

Davey:

Yeah, but then of course also, this is a group that I liked, or a genre that I liked as well, which was the nu metal.

Hannah:

Nu metal, nu metal, new metal, new metal. Welcome Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit to the chat.

Davey:

Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit.

Hannah:

Yeah, you also really liked. I don't know if they class as new metal. Who are the people that do Apply Some Pressure? Maximo Park.

Davey:

Maximo Park, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they weren't. No, no, they weren't new metal at. Yeah, I'd kind of see they're Lincoln Park territory okay, yeah, not really because they were British as well. New Metal to me is very American. I feel like American New Metal really. Yeah, well, things like Lincoln Park because you've got you've got the scratching in there as well with the turntables, like, I think, mr Hun from Limp Bizkit from Lincoln Park. Limp Bizkit, not Limp Bizkit from Lincoln Park yeah.

Davey:

Limp Bizkit's got very much of that as well in there, but Maximum Park, no, not so much why'd you leave the kids up on the table?

Hannah:

that's Limp Bizkit, isn't it? No one and two. Oh, that's System of a Down. Oh, why do I keep getting System? Of a Down. Oh Limp Bizkit's rolling, rolling, rolling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Fred.

Davey:

Durst.

Hannah:

No, we love and do shit right here.

Davey:

Yeah, break stuff. Yeah, have you seen Fred Durst lately, what he looks like? Oh no, with his hair. No, guy's a legend, absolute legend. Cool, yeah, you've got to just see what Fred Durst looks like now. It's nuts, because he was actually a really good actor, I swear a lot of people do Like him from.

Hannah:

He's in Gilmore Girls. He went into Gilmore Girls. Oh my gosh. What band is he from? He's got hair. Oh my goodness, I can't think of his name. Oh, that's going to bug me.

Davey:

I might come to you in a little while.

Hannah:

Yeah, I'll have to think about it. He's Gil in Gilmore Girls. Right, okay, he's in a band. I can't think of what band he's from.

Davey:

But yeah, baggy pants, wallet chains and band branded clothing. In fact, nu metal is very similar to skate culture.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

Skateboard culture, wouldn't you say yeah, yeah, yeah. That very similar kind of style, indie rock, indie rock.

Hannah:

Stokes Arctic Monkeys. I'm not a fan of Arctic Monkeys, unfortunately, but they're the skinny jeans Band T-shirts. It was a thing. It's a 2000s thing. The band T-shirts are skinny jeans.

Davey:

Okay, Actually I would say Maximo Park or Indie Rock.

Hannah:

Hey, here we go.

Davey:

There you go. Yeah, I would say Maximo Park or Indie Rock.

Hannah:

Indie Rock. Let's do that, yeah, yeah, no, unfortunately not a fan. Arctic Monkeys are very. They've got a very strong accent. Yeah.

Davey:

I mean, peach absolutely adores the Arctic Monkeys, he absolutely loves them, and we did do a cover of an Arctic Monkey song. But you look good on the dance floor. Yeah, that's a really easy riff for me to play as well really easy. But we used to finish off with that in our set and then we dropped it after a little while because I actually don't know why we dropped it. Well, it doesn't really fit with Scar, does it?

Hannah:

not really no. And then we've got Crunk and Southern Hip Hop Artistic Lil Jon.

Davey:

Outcast, love Outcast. Oh my baby, don't mess around, because she loves me so much I know for sure they're fermented.

Hannah:

I love their song Roses. Yeah, yeah yeah, put a make-up in the mirror and crash into a ditch Just playing. Need a golden calculator to divide.

Davey:

So what type of clothes do they wear? Grills, grills, I'll take it Grills.

Hannah:

I'll take it, that's the teeth, yeah. Grills, yeah, oversized clothing and baseball caps yeah, can see that fun. Yep, andre 2000 leads the ring of our cast. Oh gosh, no idea. Couldn't, could not tell you.

Davey:

I'm sure his name is Andre 2000 yeah, I bet that's his birth name as well yeah, see, now we're kind of so. That's 2000, now we're heading to 2010s okay, so we're coming into EDM territory this is Mitchell's kind of genre of music. He loves EDM and dance music.

Hannah:

So Avicii is the biggest name in EDM for a while.

Davey:

Unfortunately also met a tragic he did indeed, he did indeed I don't know if he's part of the 27 Club. Yeah. I think so, I will Google it.

Hannah:

Okay, you Google it.

Davey:

I don't want to get that wrong.

Hannah:

No, Calvin Harris is in there as well. So it's festival gear, neon colours, accessories, candy bracelets. For me, when I think of EDM festivals, it's the ladies wearing pretty much like bikini tops. Essentially, Hats off to them. They have incredible. What's the word body positivity? It's not something that I would be able to do, but hats off to them. It's that sort of very risque clothing, I guess short clothing, a lot of skin on show, because EDM festivals are normally very warm and in warm places. Biggest EDM festival I can think of is probably Tomorrowland, which is Belgium, and my husband went to Tomorrowland in Brazil, so I would like to go to Tomorrowland.

Davey:

I think from what Mitchell was saying, it sounds really cool. Yeah, the set design of it.

Hannah:

Oh, incredible.

Davey:

But yeah, it sounds really cool, yeah, the set design of it, oh incredible.

Hannah:

But yeah, very neon festival wear, not a lot of clothing.

Davey:

No, he was 28.

Hannah:

Oh, he was 28?. He was 28 when he died.

Davey:

Yeah, edm festivals as well. I mean, when I think back to EDM to me is what hardhouse, techno and all of that was back in the 90s? I might be wrong here and I might be way off the mark, because I haven't been to anything like that since, like going to cream fields in the 90s, which is probably nearly on 30 years ago, but it just seems a little bit of a tamer version of that.

Hannah:

Probably. Yeah, it's that rave culture come back.

Davey:

Yeah, but in a but much more. I mean when PC, yeah, I mean the rave culture in the 90s when you know, when I was there was very different. It was very raw and very kind of you know. It would be you turn up in a field with a pair of speakers and DJ decks and just have an outdoor rave. That's how it was, whereas now this seems to be a little bit more like how Glastonbury's kind of this seems like the evolution of kind of rave culture Trap.

Hannah:

Never heard of this before. Artists like Future and Travis Scott. Fortunately, I don't know either of those people. I could not. I know the. And Travis Scott. Fortunately, I don't know either of those people. I could not. I know the name, Travis Scott. Is he the one that's been in the news recently? That's done something a bit naughty. We might not be able to say on air.

Davey:

Travis Scott, American rapper and singer-songwriter.

Hannah:

Has he been in prison or done something?

Davey:

I don't know. Do you know what? That's not yet.

Hannah:

Is he the one at the concert who someone was having a problem in the crowd and he carried on? Is that Travis?

Davey:

Scott, oh, I think it might, I don't know.

Hannah:

Because most people would pause the show and he didn't. He either didn't notice or didn't care, or what have you?

Davey:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was the crowd crushed during a set at.

Hannah:

Astroworld Cloud crush. That was it In Houston, not cloud crush. That would have been softer Crowd crush.

Davey:

On 5th of November saw, oh shit.

Hannah:

Was there a death Fatality?

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Oh my.

Davey:

Yeah, there was yeah.

Hannah:

Oh, that, oh my.

Davey:

Yeah, there was. Yeah, oh, that's awful. Yeah, there was. 10 young fans Suffer fatal injuries.

Hannah:

Oh, my gosh, yeah, okay.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

I knew I recognised the name, but yeah, yeah so I recognised the name Travis Scott. So designer street wear, luxury brands and flashy jewellery Probably why I haven't Heard of them. That's not my style At all.

Davey:

Yeah, I don't even know what trap music is, and you know, I'd like to think I'm quite well up on music, but I've never heard of trap.

Hannah:

Indie pop. We're coming up to Vampire Weekend territory. Great band. I like Vampire Weekend Indie pop yeah.

Davey:

Bombay Bicycle Club. I could pop in there as well.

Hannah:

I think I might get a controversial hit on this one, but I would maybe indie pop is a bit paramour-y.

Davey:

Later stuff, later stuff, yeah. Early stuff, more emo. Early stuff, emo yeah.

Hannah:

Later stuff.

Davey:

Indie poppy.

Hannah:

Like hard times.

Davey:

Yeah, yeah, she kind of that's indie pop that.

Hannah:

Yeah, yeah, she kind of that's indie pop, that's indie pop. I'll go with that. I'm going to go with indie pop. I think you are not by your ear in time.

Davey:

Yeah, brilliant. So what is that? Bohemian styles, vintage clothing and eclectic accessories.

Hannah:

Which I would say is Hayley Williams now.

Davey:

Yeah, I would also actually say, if you look at that, it's almost a little cross between the psychedelic rock, folk rock.

Hannah:

It's a number of different styles. We've already said already. I'd say I'm into indie pop. Yeah, I'm an indie pop gal, yeah, yeah, oh, k-pop, I love K-pop. K-pop has taken. I love K-pop. It has popped off in the UK. I love it. Like BTS, yeah, bts. Blackpink Babymetal might come under this a little bit.

Davey:

I love Babymetal. I think they're amazing.

Hannah:

And then artists like Avril Lavigne really leaned into the K-pop Like she brought out the song. Hello Kitty yeah, gwen Stefani. A lot of people lean into that because that's where the fans are sometimes, so some artists lean into it.

Hannah:

K-pop there's a band called 2am okay a song called my house oh oh it hits, it's so good I mean half of it I don't understand because it's not in my native language, but some of it's in english as well, and it's it's a very fun to sing I mean k-pop, really kind of landed on our shores with Gangnam Style, didn't? It yes.

Davey:

Psy with Gangnam Style.

Hannah:

Probably where. Maybe it became popular. Yeah, it gained its popularity arguably.

Davey:

He did so. His second song, gentleman, that Psy came out with trying to follow it.

Davey:

He has a second song, he has a second that came out with Gangnam Style and there was a female singer. This is how I kind of got onto K-pop a little bit, because I was watching that and I thought the video was brilliant. I thought it was really funny. Then the second one came out, the gentleman, and there was a female singer that he had with him and I was like, oh, she's got a really nice voice, who's that? And then I listened to some of her tracks, because she was a solo artist and she was really good, and then, of course, she collaborated with other people as well.

Davey:

And then you kind of see them and it goes on and on from there.

Hannah:

It spirals and I watched a lot of anime in the 2010s as well, so a lot of anime, shows and everything obviously have soundtracks to them. So for me it was kind of bringing that. That kind of kawaii is what I'm going to say that very cutesy, very Asian inspired clothing as well, very cute. Pinks, pastels yeah, trendy, eclectic, colourful and cutesy yeah kawaii, it's cute, it's cutesy. Yeah, it's, it's. It's definitely a statement, a fashion statement oh, 100% it is yeah. But I like it. It's cute.

Davey:

Yeah, it is cute and fun.

Hannah:

And it's not hurting anyone for me?

Davey:

No, exactly Would I wear it myself?

Hannah:

No, but I think it's really fun and I love the people that do yeah.

Davey:

Yeah, but yeah, I do. I mean, obviously, obviously, as you know, I do watch quite a lot of Korean telly. Anyway, it's one of those languages I would actually like to learn, won't I Korean? So that's the 2010s. But yeah, please do mention Babymetal, because I love Babymetal. They get so much hate, but they're just amazing.

Hannah:

They're so good, they're so funny.

Davey:

Brilliant.

Hannah:

So now we are we're going to get into 2020s and I have a feeling I'm not going to know.

Davey:

Do you know what? I'm looking at some of these artists and I haven't got a frigging clue.

Hannah:

No, but we'll mention them for anyone. I haven't got a clue, I guess, so we'll go through this as quickly as we can. So, subgenres what's bedroom pop? See bedroom pop. When I think of bedroom pop, I'm thinking, actually, spice Girls. In my head, they're the people that I was singing, you know, like wannabe in my bedroom Britney Spears, people that I would sing into a hairbrush, that girly pop, girly pop, shit basically that's what I think when I think of bedroom pop.

Hannah:

But I don't know who. How do I even pronounce that Clario? I don't know who. How do I even pronounce that Clario? I?

Davey:

don't know Well the funny thing is Rex, orange County.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

Now, they performed near where I work the other day, okay, literally last week. All right, I say they. It could be a she, it could be a he, it could be a band, it could be a solo artist. I'm assuming it's a band, I've got no idea 10 to 12 hours before they were due to come on stage. I have not seen that for years. Really They've got a following. They've got a following.

Hannah:

They're out of our brain.

Davey:

I have no idea who.

Hannah:

Brain, but yeah.

Davey:

Gosh, yeah. But what clothing? Casual and comfortable, often thrifted, or vintage inspired. Vintage inspired, well Thrifted.

Hannah:

Yeah, so.

Davey:

I've just got thrift shop in my head now yeah.

Hannah:

So I think obviously bedroom pop is kind of what we would associate again with the folk side of things, the thrifted vintage kind of hippie vibes going on. Maybe I, like I, might give them a listen give them a listen.

Davey:

Let's see what they're all about let's see what that's about.

Hannah:

Um hyper pop, what I don't know, what that is, artists like 100 geeks, geeks I don't know, and sophie in big capital letters yeah, just shout the name sophie I'm sorry, I don't know who these people are.

Davey:

I'm sorry if you do and you're like, oh, I really wanted a really in-depth like analysis of it I love the fact that you're just in your 20s and now you're starting to or not just in your 20s, but you you're starting to, or not just in your 20s, but you're still only in your 20s, it's just noise. You don't know who these people are. I'm loving this.

Hannah:

Bright, exaggerated and often futuristic or Y2K inspired.

Davey:

What so basic? What does that even mean? That means that Am I old? Oh, no, that means that they take Y2K as being retro.

Hannah:

Oh, my God, I think I just died. Oh you youngins. But think about it. When I was growing up in the 90s, all of our little parties were 80s parties.

Davey:

Yeah, 20 years ago, so actually it makes horrible sense. So people will be dressing up in.

Hannah:

As me, as you.

Davey:

As emo, nu metal, indie rock, and it will be retro.

Hannah:

That will be I'm, and it will be retro. I'm retro, you're retro. Oh my God, who are you then?

Davey:

Dust. Well, that was what they say when they talk about classic rock and Foo Fighters. Is classic rock, sorry, yeah, no, absolutely not. Yeah, sorry, foo Fighters, foo Fighters, foo Fighters Like no. Fulfiders, fulfiders, fulfiders Like no oh gosh. No.

Hannah:

Oh my God, I've just read the next one Lo-fi hip hop Artists like Nujabes, nujabes, nujabs, nujabs and Ginsang.

Davey:

I have no idea. I don't know who that is either. Lo-fi hip hop.

Hannah:

So Sofi hip-hop. So what do they dress? Minimalist, cosy, often featuring streetwear brands.

Davey:

Yeah, I don't even know what that means, cosy.

Hannah:

What is that? Like an Udi? Oh, I'm down with that If there's a concert where everyone's wearing Udis. I'm in. I don't care what it sounds like I am in. Invite me along. Invite your old like I'm now. Like you know, I'm becoming an auntie soon. Yeah, like it's. Invite your like crazy aunt along. Yeah, for the ride. Who will buy you alcohol whilst you're there? That's going to be me, isn't it? Yeah, good Lord, I'm old.

Davey:

There you go.

Hannah:

Latin trap Reggaeton, reggaeton, reggaeton, reggaeton is that meaning reggae is coming back? I think it's got to be like a reggae.

Davey:

What do you think? Latin trap? Like Caribbean then, Latin yeah, but Latin's more kind of South American.

Hannah:

Bad Bunny and J Balvin no idea. Bad Bunny just sounds like I can't say that on air. Let's say someone that works in the adult Sounds like I can't say it on air. Let's say someone that works in the adult industry is what I would associate someone called Bad Bunny. But what if they're like proper, like little cutesy, like how are you? And I've just said that, and now I just feel like I need to look them up. Oh, actually, bold, colourful and often incorporating streetwear and luxury brands.

Davey:

Jesus.

Hannah:

Okay, so like the Superdry, is Superdry even like a street brand?

Davey:

anymore. Is that still a thing, are we?

Hannah:

old, we're old. Oh no, I don't know what like street brands are. Nike, nike, I don't know. Adidas, adidas, I don't know, I don't know. I've got Puma shoes and I've got Doc Martin boots on.

Davey:

Really oh yeah.

Hannah:

And I street wear.

Davey:

Okay, I don't know. I genuinely have no idea. Normally, you know, when you think about it, I have been all over music up until Up until 2020.

Hannah:

Twenties, covid. It's made us boggle our brains. We've regressed. That's why I've never grown up from the emos and you've never grown up from grunge.

Davey:

Yeah, I mean all of these other sub-genres from the 60s up until the 2020s. I'm all over it and it all makes sense. Not all makes sense, but.

Hannah:

I'm just going to Google bad bunny.

Davey:

Easy.

Hannah:

Be careful, well, for one one it's a gentleman, I was not expecting that. Okay, and he looks like. Look well, um, he kind of looks a bit like he's got the gold chains, like all right okay I was not expecting that. So bad bunny is a puerto rican rapper and I said caribbean. I was well close. Puerto rican rapper and singer okay yeah, I mean, he just looks like a normal guy with tattoos like all right, it's like the enrique iglesias yeah, he does look quite cool yes cool cool it's me trying to get down with the kids now.

Hannah:

Oh yeah, he looks cool, this person. What was? What was the other one?

Davey:

Bad Bunny and we had.

Hannah:

There was one that I was like oh, I want to know. Rex, Orange County.

Davey:

Rex, Orange County. Yeah, Look Rex.

Hannah:

Orange County.

Davey:

Let's find out if they're a band or yeah they're apparently casual and comfortable, the types of clothing they wear.

Hannah:

Rex Orange. It's a singer-songwriter, so a bit like.

Davey:

Passenger Okay, okay.

Hannah:

Oh he's cute. Oh okay, he looks quite cute. He reminds me a little bit like he'd be sing a song right to me. He's like Passenger Ed Sheeran, that sort of vibe, yeah yeah. He looks like oh hey, no, not that.

Hannah:

That's not what I meant to say Jason Mraz, jason Mraz, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, oh, he's cute I can imagine why he has such a following alright, there you go, if I may say he's aesthetically pleasing yeah but he probably is too young for me. Let's find out what age he is after. I just said that and I've now become a bit of a cougar. Um, hello, eric, uh 98.

Davey:

Oh, thank god he's only two years younger than you yeah, who's only two years younger than you?

Hannah:

yeah, his name is actually Alexander James O'Connor yes, okay. Rex, orange County is his, is his stage name and there you go, and there you go and we have learnt something we have learnt something.

Hannah:

We hope you have learnt something as well. Dear gentle listeners, that was very Bridgerton of me. I went to Warwick Castle the other day and I was living out my Bridgerton fantasies, not like the, the, yeah, not the freaky fantasies, but just like I was wearing a long skirt and I was just parading around this castle in their, in their banquet halls and I was feeling very bridgerton okay, just thought I'd let you know.

Hannah:

Thanks for that, hannah yeah, end of podcast life update. Yeah, went to warwick castle, had a whale of a time and felt like you're in bridgeton.

Hannah:

Yeah, okay, yeah, just just like, just with the clothing and just parading around a castle. It's very fun. Um, well, if you enjoyed our episode on, uh, music genres, we certainly learned something. We hope you did too. Um, and hearing from it from two different perspectives, and apparently neither of us know what's going in the 2020s at the moment. So, um, yes, we hope you're having a splendid day or night, depending on where you are listening and where you are in the world. Have a lovely day and we'll see you next time. Bye, outro Music.