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Picture this: you're all set for a sunny croquet game when, out of nowhere, the sky opens up in a torrential downpour. Ah, the unpredictable British weather! Join us on this laugh-out-loud episode of Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter as we navigate the hilarities and peculiarities of the UK's climate. From the joy of spontaneous weather changes during outdoor activities to how Brits use weather talk to sidestep awkward encounters, we've got a treasure trove of whimsical stories to share.

Ever wondered why British beaches are a year-round affair despite their often less-than-ideal conditions? We'll take you on a delightful journey through Norfolk and Cornwall's coastal gems, comparing the industrial vibes of Lowestoft and Great Yarmouth to the pristine sands of Cromer and Cornwall. Along the way, you'll hear about our annual VW festival trips, winter beach traditions on Christmas Day, and how the unique charm of the English sun makes every seaside visit memorable, no matter the season.

Is there truly a perfect season, or do we Brits just love to grumble about each one? We'll dive into this perennial debate with spirited discussions about our favorite seasonal activities, from kayaking and paddleboarding in the summer to skiing in the winter. Alongside tips and personal anecdotes, we humorously lament the chaos of school breaks and the inconvenience of summer holidays. Wrapping up with our own seasonal preferences, we even give a nod to the often-overlooked spring. So, whether you're a summer enthusiast or a winter lover, there's something in this episode for you. Tune in and join the fun!

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Davey:

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Hannah:

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Davey:

Hello and welcome to another edition of Bonus Dad, Bonus Daughter. And I've just realised with that intro, right.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

It's the actual start of the intro.

Hannah:

What do you mean?

Davey:

I've just introduced a new episode with hello and that's how I start it. So basically, everyone's just heard hello and welcome to Bonus Dad, bonus Daughter.

Hannah:

A special father-daughter podcast.

Davey:

Indeed, and then I've gone, hello.

Hannah:

Brought to you by me, Davy.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

And me Hannah.

Davey:

This episode is. Well, we're from Britain, as you know, or England, the UK, the UK, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and it's quite well known that British people have a favourite subject. We like to talk about the weather.

Hannah:

It's our small talk go-to.

Davey:

It really is, isn't it?

Hannah:

Yeah, it gets you out of awkward situations.

Davey:

It does.

Hannah:

That we've already made awkward ourselves, because they're not normally awkward in any other country.

Davey:

It's like default setting. Let's talk about the weather. That's kind of what we do, yeah.

Hannah:

One of my favorite phrases, though, is someone's hit the winter button oh really yeah I I quite like it's raining cats and dogs out there yeah, oh, biblical biblical.

Davey:

That's a good one biblical out there.

Hannah:

That's a good one, yeah that is a good one, yeah but I thought we would do a little episode.

Davey:

I thought we call it Summer versus Winter, you know, although, although I must admit, I must admit right, okay, even in the past couple of weeks, we've had summer and winter in one day.

Hannah:

It's actually been biblical. It actually has been raining cats and dogs.

Davey:

Really.

Hannah:

Yesterday was horrendous, wasn't it Yesterday? My friend was like oh, would you like to join me for croquet? Absolutely fine, I've never done croquet before. Just watched Bridgerton, so I'm feeling in the mood for croquet.

Davey:

This is very English. It's a very traditional English sport.

Hannah:

Did you go for afternoon tea Although? It's actually named after French. Croquet is French.

Davey:

Yeah, well, the English language is kind of stolen from lots places, yeah anyway. Went to play croquet, got 30 minutes into it and then the heavens I knew you were gonna say that, because that's another well-known phrase, isn't it? And the heavens opened.

Hannah:

I was. I was wearing a waterproof jacket but I was still moist, I was still drenched. But I did get a lovely chat with with because we brought the age range down a little bit. So they were 70 plus and you we were like late 20s, early 30s yeah going into this and then please tell me you spoke about it.

Davey:

Please tell me you talked about it with the old of course we talked about the weather.

Hannah:

Yeah, we talked about the weather. We talked about mining. That's a random subject. We talked about the coal mines. Actually, were you in, uh?

Davey:

the Thatcher years In Scotland.

Hannah:

Yeah pretty much, yeah, on the Scottish border, because one of them was Scottish and anyway, I had a whale of a time, other than the fact that it got rained off and then, yeah, I actually haven't seen rain quite that heavy in a very long time. It's almost like someone had chucked a bucket of water on your head.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

It was that hard.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

And there was me just out in this little like mobile shelter and you could just hear it pelting the roof.

Davey:

The funny thing is it's not funny. It's really not funny. Well, it was funny. So your mum yesterday she's out paddle boarding. Today, as you know, it's Sunday, so she's out paddle boarding.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

Yesterday she went to the lock up to put the battle boards on top of the car. Right, I was sat watching telly and I watched. You know when it, when it gets dark, suddenly the clouds come over and you can tell.

Hannah:

It's like the clouds staggered in yeah, and I can smell it.

Davey:

Can you smell it when it happens like the smell, the fact that? People have talked to me about the smell of the rain yeah, it's coming in, you can smell it, and I had the back door open because the dogs were in and out and I was like, and then the dark clouds descended and it was like something out of a Stephen King film, and then it came down.

Hannah:

What does rain smell like to you? Is it like heavy iron?

Davey:

No, it's like a fresh kind of. It's really weird. I smell metal.

Hannah:

Do you. But everyone that's ever explained it to me just says it smells like stone. But I don't understand why?

Davey:

Yeah, it's weird, and now I get this real kind of fresh kind of smell coming. Yeah, it's weird. But then your mum walked in and she just stood there, Was she drenched. She went. I've driven through floods.

Hannah:

Well, at least she had the paddle boards with her.

Davey:

Yeah, well, yeah, that's what I said. I said you'd been fine, should have put them under the car wheels. But she had just had this look on her face of not impressed, not impressed.

Hannah:

At least she wasn't drenched through. Then she managed to get back in the car.

Davey:

So it was, I mean, bright sunshine when she went down there and, as you say, it's gonna be a bread, the heavens opened. So I mean. So the uk, hannah, seasonal climate, what, what? What is it? Explain to our listeners who might not be in the uk what the weather is like here?

Hannah:

I will describe to you what a typical British summer is. Two days. It is your dad outside barbecuing, steamrolling up under an umbrella. That is a British summer. We still barbecue, we still try to cook outside, but we have these really fandangled new devices called umbrellas. Now Either that or a gazebo and we're all just sheltering in the house. And then god forbid he calls us up to say dinner's ready and we have to like flit in, flit out, otherwise our like bread gets soggy yeah, uh, yeah, that is, that is british summertime.

Davey:

Yeah is wet I have been looking at wooden gazebos wooden gazebo genuinely have, because we went around to anya's the other week. She's got this amazing like hardwood gazebo outside in the garden yeah nice and. I was like, yeah, I could go for this, have the barbecue under this.

Hannah:

I wish our temperature climate was a little bit more, that we could all have some sort of hot tubby pool thing going on.

Davey:

See that would be. It would be more of a tepid tub A tepid tub, yeah, yeah, it's just. This is always what got me when we had the swimming pool. It was like we had the swimming pool up for the summer, but our summer lasts generally from A week yeah, if that, and even then it's not. It's quite sporadic.

Hannah:

It's why a lot of British people, I think, travel to Spain for their holidays, because they're guaranteed nicer weather.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Like South. Europe-ish-esque south of the UK anyway, to just get close to that equator.

Davey:

I think we used to have I mean, when I was younger we used to did, from what I can remember and I might have got this wrong this could be just a memory thing that we did have more seasonal weather, as in winters were winters, summer summer was summer, whereas now it all just seems to be one one, really yeah, interesting do you think that's because of climate change I think so. Global warming, yeah, I mean, which is all your fault, by the way you started this.

Hannah:

We're trying to fix it yeah, when was what?

Davey:

not my fault, not my fault maybe. I mean, when was, when was the last time we had snow?

Hannah:

We had Beast from the East. We had this conversation yesterday actually.

Davey:

Oh, that was bloody horrendous, that one.

Hannah:

Beast from the East must have been Fuck, no more than that Seven, eight years ago.

Davey:

A while ago, I was still in my old job.

Hannah:

Yeah. Still in the same company but I was in my old, old, old, old, old job.

Davey:

So I do, you know I walked to work in that. I know you did. I left. I left home at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, to get to work for seven.

Hannah:

Yeah, walking in that yeah, I remember I walked to work as well, but I didn't have as much to travel as you yeah I was just the next village along I fell in a snowdrift.

Davey:

Do you know that? Yeah I just disappeared in the snow drift I've never seen snow like it.

Hannah:

It was taller than me. The snow drifts on the side of the road. That was.

Davey:

That's the most snow I've ever seen it was beautiful though because pretty yeah because that's the one thing about snow, is that?

Hannah:

it grounded the uk or grounded norwich, particularly like we were. That's it we were done for, yeah I mean even like so.

Davey:

I left work at 2 o'clock in the morning, but it was almost like it was daylight.

Hannah:

Yeah, because it's so bright.

Davey:

Because it was so bright Because of the snow and it was just beautiful, and what I really liked about it it was, again, it was like when Covid happened and I drove my grandmother to my mum's and I was the only car on the road. Yeah, and I was the only car on the road. So after my granddad died, I'd have to get yeah, yeah.

Davey:

And I was the only car on the road driving back from Sleaford and it was just lovely to just be alone and it was like that for Beast of the East as well. It was just.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

Just myself. It was like a ghost town.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

And I was just trundling along the side of the road. It was awesome Lo.

Hannah:

Loved it. Yeah, I think we're so not used to snow in the UK that it does completely ground us. It's like well, snow day, no one's going to work.

Davey:

We're all staying at home? Yeah, we can't deal with it. We can't deal with extreme weather.

Hannah:

No, we can't.

Davey:

We really, really can't.

Hannah:

We had snow actually not last December, the previous December before I got married because I got stuck in Edinburgh.

Davey:

No flights in or out. You did, didn't you? Yeah?

Hannah:

So both the Stag and the Hendoo got stuck.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Because nowhere they couldn't land in Heathrow.

Davey:

That's right, they couldn't land in.

Hannah:

Stansted. So yeah, pretty much brought the whole UK to a standstill anytime we have snow, Although I have to say the Scottish they know how to deal with snow. Oh, they do. Yeah, Edinburgh Airport top notch. Top notch people. It was actually coming into Heathrow. That was the issue. It was the landing, not the take off.

Davey:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you kind of think of English winters as being like this snow, beautiful, snow, landscape.

Hannah:

Yeah, but it barely snows.

Davey:

It barely snows anymore.

Hannah:

I don't think I've ever known a white Christmas.

Davey:

I don't think I have.

Hannah:

Fun fact do you know how much snow it takes?

Davey:

Yeah, one snowflake.

Hannah:

Yeah, I was going to say how much it takes to be a white Christmas. It is one snowflake in the UK.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

And that is classed as a white Christmas.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Which is bullshit. It needs to be proper white. Those chestnuts need to be roasting on an open fire.

Davey:

They do indeed.

Hannah:

With your snow through your window.

Davey:

Yeah, that kind of Christmassy kind of feel, yeah, which I hate.

Hannah:

I know you hate it Anyway.

Davey:

But yeah, that's kind of that winter kind of thought is the idea of snow and Christmas, which again isn't the reality, and the British summer you tend to. So when you think of what my idea was or what the image of a British summer would be, would be eating an ice cream or fish and chips at the beach.

Hannah:

Yeah, in the rain.

Davey:

In the rain.

Hannah:

Yeah, our beaches. Should we talk about our beaches? Why not? They're a bit shit. Maybe it's just our local ones. A lot of people come to the Norfolk coast for our beaches.

Davey:

Well, do they? I think a lot of people come to Norfolk for the broads.

Hannah:

The broads are beautiful. We have probably one nice beach.

Davey:

We are swampland. At the end of the day, we are swampland, we are reclaimed from the sea, Thankfully the sea.

Hannah:

And I think yeah.

Davey:

Thankfully, the sea is taking it back.

Hannah:

The sea is taking us back. Norwich will be underwater in the next five years.

Davey:

Well, Yarmouth will be gone first. Which?

Hannah:

is you know, Not a massive loss. It's not a bad thing. Not a massive loss. Sorry for any listeners in.

Davey:

Cree. We can lose Yarmouth. We can afford to lose Yarmouthouth. We can afford to lose Yarmouth. We can afford to lose Yarmouth, although we lose the snails and we lose the.

Hannah:

We would lose the coast at the scenic railway.

Davey:

Yeah, we would.

Hannah:

Can you see how I just slipped in roller coasters, just so?

Davey:

effortlessly Well done, well done I mean. Achele could be the new kind of. For anybody who doesn't live in Norfolk With no idea of these place names, that we're saying no, but Acold could be the new seafront.

Hannah:

Acold could be the new seafront.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

With all them little windmill.

Davey:

Acold Bridge, benji.

Hannah:

Acold Bridge, benji.

Davey:

He'll know what I mean by that, okay.

Hannah:

But yeah, it's just rain. We don't really get much sun.

Davey:

No, but you were talking about the beaches. You said they were a bit shit, but you didn't elaborate on that.

Hannah:

I think beaches abroad are better. They're bigger, they're cleaner. I would say the North Sea is not very clean. It's filthy.

Davey:

We have a shit sea. It's filthy, it's quite dangerous the North Sea.

Hannah:

It's got a lot of stuff in it that you can hurt yourself on.

Davey:

Yeah, Okay so.

Hannah:

We've got quite an Like around our beaches, particularly in Norfolk. I'd say if you go to Lowestoft, if you go to Galston, they're very industrial.

Davey:

Yeah, Lowestoft is yeah, yeah.

Hannah:

Lowestoft, particularly Galston, is as well, and parts of Great Yarmouth. Well, galston and Great Yarmouth, well, gorsham and Great Yarmouth are so close anyway, I guess. They're quite industrial. Wells is lovely.

Davey:

As you go to the North Norfolk coast. North Norfolk coast is nice.

Hannah:

Cromer Wells. They're nice.

Davey:

South Wold's nice. East Runton is beautiful.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

East Runton is really nice because we go surfing.

Hannah:

Exactly, so you've got some nice beachesness.

Davey:

I think I was like, oh really, I didn't go for the beach, I went for the road. But I mean, this is so. I'll tell you a story we went to. So me, ben, not Benji, but another friend, ben of mine years ago we used to go to Run to the Sun.

Davey:

Run to the Sun which is a VW festival and that used to be in Cornwall, in New key. We used to stay at trevally um caravan park and we go down there for the vw festival, which was awesome, but that would be the weekend, but then what we would do? We then stay for the week and we used to go and do a lot of surfing. We used to do that every single year. And new key bits fristrell beach, perinporth beach, uh, watergate bay, all around there is where we go surfing and it's really it's really nice and the water's really clear and really lovely. But then when you come back to Norfolk, I remember going to go surfing up at East Run and also Cromer. It's different. I mean, yes, it's colder because it's, you know, cornwall, but the water I remember running up to the beach at one point and seeing a dead rabbit in the foam and just thinking, oh, that's not fun.

Davey:

Yeah, no, I'm not going in there today. No it just put me right off, but I mean we do. You are right, because as you go further down south, down the Norfolk coast, it's not that nice.

Hannah:

No, southwark is nice though.

Davey:

Yeah, that's, Suffolk though.

Hannah:

Yeah, I suppose it is Suffolk how to beach, and I think the reason we don't know how to beach is because we don't have the weather to beach.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

So I don't think we pour a lot of money or infrastructure into keeping our beaches clean, because I think a lot of our beaches are kind of dog walkers and there's designated times for dog walkers as well. I'm thinking particularly Wells, like Wells is a really, really flat beach, isn't?

Davey:

it. Yeah, it is a bay. I mean Holcombe up around there is gorgeous as well. It's lovely. It's been in a few films, holcombe and Wells. Yeah, yeah, been in a few films.

Hannah:

They're definitely both very nice beaches and they're all very flat as well, and we're quite sand dune-y here. Yeah, we've got quite a few dunes as well Holcombe and Wells because I also got engaged there. So I think it holds a slightly special thing in my mind, although that was in November and it was cold. See, I think we do beaches all year round.

Davey:

We do, because you said you know you and your mum go beaches in the winter. Yeah, christmas Day.

Hannah:

So when you used to work Christmas Day, we would before you got home or maybe when you got in from a night shift and you were sleeping, mum would always take me to the beach and we'd have a hot chocolate on the beach. That was our thing.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

That is what we used to do, just because it passed the time until you woke up. Because for a child not being told that they could open their presents until you?

Davey:

woke up was. I'm sorry.

Hannah:

Yeah, Hell. So yeah, we used to go to the beach, but yeah, I just think generally across the UK our beaches are fairly shit.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

But there are some.

Davey:

There are a couple of nice ones, with exceptions, just in general, with exceptions to the rule.

Hannah:

Yeah, exceptions to the rules.

Davey:

But yeah, you say we do tend to go to the beach, whether it be summer or whether it be winter. You know, there's that photograph of you, isn't there, laying asleep on the beach with a.

Hannah:

Yeah, I was really poorly that day Almost like a duvet on. That was actually my birthday. I remember that that was August 17th.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

That was like cold.

Davey:

Where was that? Which beach was that?

Hannah:

I think it was East Runton, was it East?

Davey:

Runton. I don't know. Your mum will know there were sandbags over there.

Hannah:

I remember feeling.

Davey:

It's a typical kind of tradition.

Hannah:

I think you took me out. I don't know whether it was my birthday, my actual birthday or whether it was just something. You took me out for my birthday to the beach, but yeah.

Davey:

Yeah. Another reason to hate my birthday is at the worst time of year, yeah, so what about typical summer temperatures, what they perceive to be and what you think they actually are?

Hannah:

I don't think we really, we never really fetch over 30. No, think we really we never really fetch over 30. No really, we've had a few heat waves. I remember a couple of years back we had a heat wave, didn't we where? It was like 40 or 38 might have been the highest we'd had, but that was. That was an outlier yeah I would say a typical british summer is between 22 and 26 yeah, centigrade centigrade, yeah, yeah.

Davey:

Centigrade. Yeah, Not Kelvin or Fahrenheit.

Hannah:

No Celsius.

Davey:

Yeah, what about the type of sun we get in England? Because that's something else. We Brits say we have a dry sun. Yeah, the English summer is a different type of heat. It's not humid, though, no, it's like oh, I like it when we go abroad. You know you go out in the sun when you're abroad, but when you're in England, oh no, it's unbearable. We don't like it that kind of thing.

Hannah:

It's kind of like. I guess I don't know what the word would be, but it's kind of very dry and stuffy.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Our summer, whereas when the heat doesn't feel as much, even though it's hotter.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

And I don't understand why, what the difference is. Or maybe it's just because your clothing is more prepared for it.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

In the UK. It just sneaks up on us and we're already still in our winter coats. Perhaps that it just feels more.

Davey:

Well, interestingly enough. So there was an event happens at work every year and primarily it's always sunny. For this event, I don't know what, I just really really. And there's a.

Davey:

I think I sent you a photograph when I was there and I looked ridiculous because, as you know, I tan very, very easily yes and there's this photograph that I sent, I think, to you and your mum, and it's just of my neck up of my face, where I just look so tanned. My hands and my face were were ridiculously tanned, but I was wearing a suit. The rest of my body was still completely white. I looked absolutely ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. But what got me about this one particular event? Because this was when we had a heat wave. It was the week we had the heat wave.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

And it was ridiculously hot and I was talking to a family that come across from asia and, I think, predominantly india yeah and they were telling me uh, they said even they found it unbearable really yeah, and they literally live in india as being really stuffy and hot.

Hannah:

For some reason, like just the movies make it look. I've never been, but the movies make it look really stuffy and hot.

Davey:

And they said that week they said we feel uncomfortable, this is not nice, oh right, and it got me thinking about that whole. We have a different type of sun.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

And it was almost like it validated that point.

Hannah:

Yeah, I wonder what it well, atmospherically, there must be something.

Davey:

Yeah, yeah, it's uncomfortable.

Hannah:

Yeah yeah, it's uncomfortable.

Davey:

Yeah, but also we do love a thunderstorm though. Yeah, I love a summer thunderstorm, storm, storm.

Hannah:

I think we get more thunderstorms than most. I mean, we don't luckily we're not, we don't get earthquakes, we don't get hurricanes, we don't get anything like that. But we do get some really random storms and I would argue yesterday morning was a storm.

Davey:

Oh, 100%. That was a storm, like when the heavens opened and the bucket of water is on your head. Yeah.

Hannah:

Has that changed much over the years, would you say?

Davey:

Is that less?

Hannah:

frequent or the same.

Davey:

No, I think about the same, really About the same. I mean, I used to love thunderstorms because they just kind of. Again, you know that whole thing when British people say well, you know we need a good storm to clear the air.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

You heard that expression.

Hannah:

I know a lot. I suffer from headaches. Before a storm hits, I get like a storm headache.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Which I think is a really weird concept in itself.

Davey:

But there must be something in the air oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes you feel heavy or dehydrated or something Pressure. Is there pressure? Yeah, pressure.

Hannah:

Pressure in the air.

Davey:

Yeah, we do get our fair share of heat waves and we do get our fair share of thunderstorms, yes, but I think our summer is very unpredictable. It's not like other parts of the world where you can go. Well, if you're going to go in summer, you know it's going to be hot and sunny.

Hannah:

No.

Davey:

Or it's going to be hurricane season or things like that, Whereas we are very kind of it's unpredictable. I don't think our winters are that cold either? No, they're not overly cold.

Hannah:

I think it's very rare for it to be under minus two. Yeah, like we have pretty mild winters. Yeah, and rainy winters yeah. We have a lot of rainy winters.

Davey:

Yeah, it's not really. Which do you prefer? Do you prefer summer or do you prefer winter?

Hannah:

I like autumn, so I guess, my, I guess if I was to choose summer or winter, I'd probably choose winter. Yeah, I do prefer wearing an outfit where I have something to cover my arms and feel cosy. I like the idea of feeling cosy, whereas summer clothing makes me feel more uncomfortable.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Yeah, like for example now I'm wearing a denim skirt, my legs are bare, but I'm already thinking oh, my legs are going to chafe.

Davey:

Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Whereas winter clothes.

Hannah:

I don't have that problem.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Because I'm covered and I like being cosy and I get to wear boots. Boots are my favourite thing and there's pumpkins and spooky times. I just love being cosy. So summer is not my month.

Davey:

Okay, you said summer is not my month. My month, yeah.

Hannah:

And my birthday falls in summer as well, which is just. I think I might just start celebrating my half birthday, which is February.

Davey:

Okay.

Hannah:

I'm just going to declare Could you be?

Davey:

like the Queen and have two birthdays. No, I'm just going to declare Could it be like the Queen and have two birthdays.

Hannah:

No, no, I'm just going to go with February. I'm just going to change my birthday? Who would know?

Davey:

No one would know.

Hannah:

No, we could just change it. We could just change it. I'm changing my birthday.

Davey:

Okay, okay.

Hannah:

I'm glad to hear first place.

Davey:

Yeah, well, of course, one thing that is very different between summer and winter is the length of days.

Hannah:

Yeah, so we have long days in the summer more daylight and in winter we have less, and I think that's another reason I prefer winter is that I sleep better. Yeah, the sun doesn't come through the blind as early, and then I can nod off better because it's not light outside when I go to bed.

Davey:

Can you imagine living in those places like Alaska?

Hannah:

Iceland, Norway. Oh, it's like you get 24 hours of dark, isn't it, and 24 hours of light.

Davey:

Can you imagine that?

Hannah:

You'd have to have some Kraken blinds and then some Kraken lights.

Davey:

Yeah, proper blackout blinds.

Hannah:

But also really good lights for during the day of the dark.

Davey:

Imagine six months of night.

Hannah:

Yeah, that's kind of cool.

Davey:

But then because then you've got the.

Hannah:

That's where the vampires should go.

Davey:

Well, 30 Days of Night is based in Barrow, isn't it in Alaska? Yeah, it's quite, because at the moment because I mean we're recording this in early July- yeah. We are looking at sunsets around about quarter to ten at night.

Hannah:

Yeah, I'd say so.

Davey:

And then, about quarter past four in the morning, the sun's up again.

Hannah:

Yeah. So that night is only Early bastard.

Davey:

Yeah, that sun is only that night time is only about six hours at the moment.

Hannah:

Yeah, very short.

Davey:

Yeah, yeah. And then you get other days in the winter when it starts getting daylight, when the light goes well, it starts getting night. It's five o'clock in the afternoon, yeah, and it doesn't get light until about seven in the morning.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

So you get like 14 hours of dark, yeah. Now please ask me this question why do we still bugger around with the clocks?

Hannah:

I don't know what is the hour. What's that hour? Extra hour it does me, I mean. Apparently it was for farming, but my argument there is the time is still the time, so just what Live with it Like. Does an hour really make much of a difference?

Davey:

I don't know. Maybe that's a question we could ask people, because I literally don't know.

Hannah:

Let's ask Jeremy Clarkson, let's get him on this podcast.

Davey:

Yeah, what is it with this hour?

Hannah:

What's with the hour?

Davey:

Because it throws me.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

It really throws me.

Hannah:

In the morning I'm like I've overslept. I haven't.

Davey:

And I'll tell you what it does throw. It throws the dogs.

Hannah:

It does throw the dogs. They want to get fed earlier.

Davey:

They do want to get fed earlier.

Hannah:

Or later.

Davey:

Or later. No, trust me earlier, because then you've got your issues with the clocks. I mean alright, since smartphones come that kind of, does it automatically?

Hannah:

Oh yeah, but then you've got something that you need a bloody degree to do.

Davey:

Your oven.

Hannah:

Your oven.

Davey:

The microwave yeah.

Hannah:

The car yeah.

Davey:

Yeah, your mum does the oven. I do not know how to change the time on that at all. I know this is kind of sideswiping into things, but I'm sure they make the oven clock and timer thing difficult on purpose.

Hannah:

Yeah to weed out evolution.

Davey:

To weed out the imbeciles of which I am one.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

I don't know how it works. I really have no idea. But the other thing you get as well is you get sad and by sad you get sad, and by sad I mean it can affect the light. The amount of light that you get can affect your life as well, can't it? Your mood? Yes, rickets. Seasonal affective disorder vitamin d yes, sad, yeah, do you? Do you feel that you might get sadder in the winter?

Hannah:

No, I'm happier because I'm a cosy little potato in my little oodie. Yeah, and I prefer running in the winter because running in the summer is hot. Yeah, I am a winter gal, I'm sorry, I am. I do prefer cooler weather.

Davey:

Do you? Yeah, yeah, I do.

Hannah:

And also, I just think the sun just hurts my skin. Yeah, I'm not made for the sun.

Davey:

You're not, you are ginger.

Hannah:

I'm not made for the sun. No, you are ginger, you do burn easily, don't you?

Davey:

Yeah, see, I'm the opposite. I mean, even look at my arm now, look, look at that tan line You're like Neapolitan ice cream.

Hannah:

you are, I am.

Davey:

Look at that tan line and it's not even been sunny.

Hannah:

No, it's nuts isn't it. You need to put some sun cream on your tattoo.

Davey:

Do I.

Hannah:

Well, yeah.

Davey:

Yeah, I suppose I do a little bit Because you need to keep it protected. Yes, yes, dear.

Hannah:

Yes, dear yes dear.

Davey:

So Activities and events, yeah, what would you say? What's our traditional summer activities and what do you like doing?

Hannah:

Your traditional summer activity is festivals.

Davey:

Yes, well, not so much now. I've been to a festival for a couple of years.

Hannah:

I mean you used to play them.

Davey:

Yeah, I used to play them. It used to be festival season and I'd be out.

Hannah:

I mean beach. We've talked about being kind of all year round for us.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Yeah, I guess there are certain things that happen in the summer, like Wimbledon. If you're into tennis, oh God, I hate that Wimbledon. What?

Davey:

Oh, Wimbledon, just oh, I can't, no yeah. Well it's a sport thing, isn't it? I mean the Euros, oh oh, I mean Euros, then bloody Wimbledon at the same time. But I'm lucky, I just don't.

Hannah:

You're just not into sport.

Davey:

No.

Hannah:

Yeah, I think a lot of people like the summer because of football. It's the season, it's the season.

Davey:

No, football's more of a winter thing, isn't it Well?

Hannah:

it is more of a winter thing. I don't know why I said that.

Davey:

I just mean like the tournaments.

Hannah:

The tournaments are. The World Cup is normally in the summer, other than a couple of years back when yeah, that was.

Davey:

It's every two years, isn't it? I think it works out World Cup, then Euros, every kind of two years.

Hannah:

Yeah, yeah, I know that. So it feels like it falls off all the time. Yeah, yeah, I know a little bit.

Davey:

But yeah, so beach beaching, beach Beaching, Be like Beach Ken Hi.

Hannah:

I think a lot of people outdoor sports as well. So you've got like kayaking, canoeing, yeah, paddleboarding.

Davey:

So I love, yeah, I mean I'm actually meeting your mom this afternoon four o'clock. Cute, take my kayak down there where she is, yeah, not at linford no, no, no, no. Elsewhere, I'm down at the eagle canoe club, yeah yeah, so um, those are things those are things. Those are things, but barbecues as well. You know that's like a summer.

Hannah:

I feel like a lot of people do those all year round as well, I think, and we're so used to cooking in the rain that at this point, it doesn't really matter if it's winter, yeah, and then, I guess, winter you've got more indoor activities, more sort of board game nights although I do those all year round as well, actually, admittedly but yeah, you've got Christmas markets.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Winter sports. I probably I don't know, I've never been skiing or anything but I imagine you probably have to do that in months of snow.

Davey:

Yeah, yeah, we've got dry ski slopes now as well.

Hannah:

We do have dry ski slopes in the UK, but I was thinking more like France, Like when is their skiing season? What season?

Davey:

I don't know, it's the season of skiing I've never been because I've been snowboarding, but at dry slopes at the Milton Keynes. Yeah, the snow dome there.

Hannah:

I think if I was ever going to go skiing skiing I think I'd hit the dry slopes first, so I knew how to ski before going. Snow skiing, yeah, so I knew how to ski before going snow skiing yeah, it's terrifying that you can't stop. I can't stop in roller skates, but here we are.

Davey:

When I went snowboarding for the first time because when you snowboard you come onto the side to slow yourself down, to brake I literally just pointed the board down and went and the instructor was going no, I'm just sliding another sheer terror on my face.

Hannah:

I can't stop we have like the holiday season in winter as well, so you've got christmas yeah, yeah festivities uh, us obviously have thanksgiving yeah, so there's a lot more holidays. I mean, I would argue that easter falls in spring, so I'd say there's more holidays in winter than there are compared to summer, although I guess US you've got 4th of July, which just happened yeah you've got 4th of July. We only have one bank holiday in the summer, don't we?

Davey:

we've got two in May.

Hannah:

I don't know if you class that as summer, and then we've got the one end of August as a bank holiday. We always have two in May early in end for some reason, and then we've got that one in August, random. I think it's the 26th this year or something is it?

Davey:

I don't know. I'll just wait to see what happens wait till I'm invited somewhere but then, of course, yeah, different types of clothing, your summer wardrobe, your winter wardrobe yeah, I, I guess yeah. Yeah, I have the same wardrobe all year round. I just put a coat on or take a coat off. It's just depending if it's summer or winter?

Hannah:

Yeah, I definitely don't. I have summer clothes and winter clothes.

Davey:

Oh, have you seen that episode of 8 Out of 10 Cats where Sean Locke does his calendar?

Hannah:

Yes, yeah.

Davey:

I love Sean Locke, I know.

Hannah:

Rest in peace, Sean Locke.

Davey:

But that is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. He's like, oh, getting a bit warmer now, so I've undone the coat. It's like you know, it's absolutely brilliant. Oh yeah, I mean, that's something else as well. I mean I mentioned kind of barbecues, right? So barbecues, no-transcript. What's for dinner tonight? Picky tea.

Hannah:

Picky tea.

Davey:

I do like picky tea, picky tea In winter you're less likely to have picky tea.

Hannah:

In winter you have, like roast dinners, very hearty soup.

Davey:

Yeah, casseroles Like warming meals. Yeah.

Hannah:

In summer, not so much, no, but my husband and I, mitchell, have this argument a lot of the time, not argument with each other, argument with the world. We will have roasts in the summer.

Davey:

I'll have a roast in the summer there's nothing wrong with a roast.

Hannah:

There's nothing wrong with having certain things at a certain time. Would I have a salad in the winter? Yes, if it accompanied my food.

Davey:

Like I'm not against having If it came with my roast.

Hannah:

If it came with my roast, Like I'm not going to deny a salad in the winter, but I am more likely to choose something that's going to warm me up if I'm cold.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

If I was at a restaurant and I just walked in from the really chilly weather and it was salad or a roast dinner, I know I'm going to pick the roast dinner.

Davey:

Exactly Me too.

Hannah:

Also, I'm not a rabbit, so lettuce. Yeah, I think that's. Another reason for me to hate summer is that I'm just not a lettuce fan and I just feel like that's the season of the lettuce, just not.

Davey:

They all come out, don't they? Yeah, baby's lamb lettuce, iceberg round lettuce. Yeah, and another reason I don't like summer.

Hannah:

Sorry, this is such a rant about me hating summer now, but the school holidays are in the summer, which means if I did want to go on holiday on my birthday, it's astronomically priced because it's in the school holidays and there's kids about and we all know how. I feel about kids. So, like you know, I've got to a point in my life where I just want peace. I just want peace.

Hannah:

This is yeah, this is just the I hate summer podcast episode. Yeah, and this is why I hate my birthday being it, and I've mentioned on a previous episode, I actually really don't like my birthday and that's why I try to spend it doing something. But there's always kids there and I like to do kid things, like I like to do things that kids do, like I'm a rollercoaster enthusiast. That's where you find families and kids. You know I like Go Ape Kids, like that too, like I'm just a big kid at heart. So I think that.

Davey:

yeah, it made me laugh earlier on today when you said I really want to see Inside Out at the cinema.

Hannah:

I do, but I've got to find a kid to take, otherwise I look so weird.

Davey:

It's a random kid. Come with me to the cinema so I don't look weird.

Hannah:

That's not weird at all, is it? I actually pinched my husband's little sister to watch Space Jam. Yeah, but Esme's getting a little bit old. She's now too old for that now Exactly. But when Space Jam came out she was a little bit younger.

Davey:

I was like do you want to?

Hannah:

go see Space Jam. Yeah, you do, you really do. And then we went and saw Space Jam and it was brilliant.

Davey:

So that is one thing. Going back to where I kind of started this off, was about outdoor dining and then went on a rant about kids, is you know?

Hannah:

that's something else.

Davey:

It's like as soon as the sun does come out, we have this tendency right, it's hot enough to eat outside now.

Hannah:

Yeah, and I feel like we suffer in the cold.

Davey:

We do, but we're just trying to make a point.

Hannah:

Yeah, it's like we're British, we can do this. We can sit outside and we can eat, and we'll be there shivering with our jumpers because we've forgotten to wear legs. So we've got just everything on the top half, but our legs are like shaking and they've gone blue because it's so cold outside. Yeah, yeah, summer nights.

Davey:

Summer loving that song's so wrong though.

Hannah:

Yeah. All of the Grease soundtrack. If you listen to it now would not fly. It would not fly. It's wrong, it would not fly.

Davey:

No, it's so wrong. The whole Grease thing is just yeah. So really we're kind of if we start thinking about kind of wrapping the episode up a little bit what have we kind of concluded on this?

Hannah:

That I hate summer.

Davey:

Is there any part of summer that you'd like?

Hannah:

I do enjoy a vegan ice cream.

Davey:

You enjoy a vegan ice cream.

Hannah:

I do enjoy a vegan ice cream. Yeah, that's only in recent years, since the vegan movement has really helped people like me who are dairy intolerant to get more access to creamy things that are not going to hurt my tummy, so that's fun and that's it.

Davey:

Vegan ice cream is the only good thing about summer. The rest of summer can get in the sea. Is that basically what you're?

Hannah:

saying the rollercoaster parks aren't open in the winter, so I guess that's one negative. For winter the season normally starts late, kind of late, march-ish to Halloween essentially, yeah, sometimes November. I guess that's one good thing about summer.

Davey:

Mm-hmm.

Hannah:

Is that the parks are open, but then I just go in the spring, slash, autumn.

Davey:

Yeah so.

Hannah:

I skip the whole summer.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

I think I just should hibernate for three months.

Davey:

So, ah, so you're like the anti-hibernator. So where everyone? Anti-hibernator when like bears and that kind of hibernate during the winter. You want to hibernate during the summer, anti-hibernator, and then come out for the winter.

Hannah:

Yeah.

Davey:

So when would you emerge from your pit of?

Hannah:

hibernation. I would sleep for my birthday. That is what I want to do.

Davey:

Or would you want someone to wake you up when September ends?

Hannah:

Oh, summer has.

Davey:

Did you see what I did there? Yeah, yeah.

Hannah:

Wake me up.

Davey:

When September ends.

Hannah:

When summer ends.

Davey:

Yeah, so yeah. So there you have it. Hannah hates summer, yeah, so in the episode Summer vs Winter, winter wins.

Hannah:

Winter wins. Does winter win for?

Davey:

you as well. Yeah, yes and no, I am a bit of a. You're on the fence.

Hannah:

I am on the fence.

Davey:

I am because I do prefer colder weather. You know, if you were to say you know, as you know, I want to go to Iceland, I want to go to Norway.

Hannah:

I like.

Davey:

Scandinavian kind of thing. But that kind of climate is just I like it, it's just nice. But at the same time I like beaches and I like surfing and I like kayaking. So you know, and I think I saw something the other day and it was just like. I know I've said about Shawshank Redemption before right, and I say it's my favourite film and I'll always watch it when it's on. But the final scene of Shawshank Redemption with Tim Robbins and you see Morgan Freeman sanding down a boat on the beach and Tim Robbins is walking up there and it's just like that looks really nice.

Hannah:

I've got a question for you to end the podcast on.

Davey:

Okay.

Hannah:

British summer when you were a child to British summer now. What would you prefer? And then winter, uk, british winter then and British winter now.

Davey:

Both now.

Hannah:

Both now.

Davey:

Both now.

Hannah:

Why.

Davey:

Both now.

Hannah:

That has really shocked me. Why.

Davey:

Because I'm not a child.

Hannah:

Okay.

Davey:

As in.

Hannah:

As in.

Davey:

As in. It was boring as a child. Yeah, I didn't have the opportunities, I had to be able to do things, whereas now.

Hannah:

I do. Yeah, yeah, no matter what I could make something work. It wasn't to do with what was about or what was around for you to do.

Davey:

No.

Hannah:

Would you say there's more to do now.

Davey:

That's a personal thing for me.

Hannah:

Personal thing for you, okay.

Davey:

Yeah.

Hannah:

Do you think people of your age group would agree?

Davey:

I don't know.

Hannah:

Did they have good like? Because some people will say oh, summers aren't like they used to be when I was a kid, or winter is not what I used to be, or christmas is not like yeah, but was it though?

Davey:

this is the thing is?

Hannah:

that's my question to you.

Davey:

Yeah, is that just how people remember it, and we've said this before.

Hannah:

You know about the how memories can be deceiving yeah uh I know a lot of people say of your generation generally say that the winters were better.

Davey:

Oh, the winters were better. The snow was more incredible. Yeah, yeah, no, I'd say, the winters were better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hannah:

Okay, I thought winters were better, so winters were better. But summers are better now, maybe because you have more access to-.

Davey:

There's more things that you can do.

Hannah:

There's more things to do. There things to do what did you do in the summer as a child?

Davey:

not we played out, played out, played out in the garden or played out in the street in the rain in the rain, yeah, played out in the street because, again, where I lived in steve, it's the nearest beach to us bosque gnes yeah, of course, yeah and that was 40 miles away yeah whereas norwich yarmouth is 20 miles away yeah and, of course, when I was a kid as, as you know, I didn't have a car, or we didn't have a car, yeah, so it could have been on the moon, for you know, for you know five, yeah, and you know, even the train to Skegness never went, no, whereas now, yeah, I mean this is the other thing as well that me and your mum do quite a lot.

Davey:

We will, I'll say quite a lot, but we've done it where I'll get home from work, especially in the summer when it's light, and your mum will go jog around the lake and we'll drive to Cromer. It's nearly an hour's drive, but we'll do it. Yeah, drive all the way to East Runton and wait up there until the sun sets and then go get some chips and come back.

Davey:

Yeah, it's nice, yeah, so I like doing that.

Hannah:

You have more free time maybe.

Davey:

Yeah. Without a care in the world about money or yeah, because again I mean, all right, it costs a petrol, but I've got my kayak, your mum's got her paddle boards. Theoretically, it doesn't actually cost anything.

Hannah:

No Other than the travel, I guess it doesn't cost anything to do what you want to do.

Davey:

No Other than saying and the chips. Yeah, and the chips yeah and yeah it's, I'd say, other than the cost of the travel or the cost of the petrol, it's free.

Hannah:

Nice.

Davey:

It's free, so yeah.

Hannah:

Oh, I think that's a nice place to end I think, so Do you not think. So yes, tell us your what you think. Are you a summer person, are you a winter person, or are you, like me, in the middle?

Davey:

Autumn I'm an autumn.

Hannah:

In the words of Edward Herman I'm an autumn.

Davey:

Spring. I don't think it doesn't get enough kind of love.

Hannah:

I just feel like spring is just. It's like I'm trying to be summer but I'm going to be really wet about it.

Davey:

Nicely put, thank you.

Hannah:

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